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Dennis Prager's Inconsistent Arguments
Posted by Dorkafork Recently I mentioned Dennis Prager's opinion on Keith Ellison swearing in on the Koran as an example of "hateful, intolerant, bigoted response to the mere idea of a Muslim holding office." I realize that's a pretty inflammatory statement which could use further explanation; more than one commenter defended Prager, describing him as far from bigoted and "a truly decent human being." I'm sure that for the most part he is remarkably decent. But I believe his views in this particular case are based on prejudice rather than sound reasoning. Let me try and lay out the reasons why I believe that to be the case. My first exposure to Prager was the video at Hot Air regarding swearing on the Koran. It began with a truncated version of this quote from Prager's original piece: If Keith Ellison is allowed to change that, he will be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11. This did not strike me as a calm, sober analysis of the situation. It also seemed to be a clear violation of multiple parts of the Constitution. He described the Bible as "the work we wish to affirm as our central text". Well, "I" don't wish to affirm the Bible as my central text, and I resent Prager trying to establish it as our central text. We've got violations of the establishment of religion clause (Bible as central text), the free exercise clause (don't swear on your own holy book), and the prohibition on a religious test ("...America is interested in only one book, the Bible. If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress.") I believe it is clear Prager is not asking for a law to enforce this, merely making his argument a violation of the spirit of the Constitution if not the letter. A blatant disregard for the Constitution is only part of the reason I think his arguments are based on prejudice, though I'd say it's probably the most significant. If he isn't basing his arguments on the Constitution, and they just happen to be opposed to a Muslim freely exercising his religious beliefs according to his own conscience, it makes me extremely suspicious. Now I wouldn't want to be accused of labeling someone a bigot just because they disagree with me on a subject. But I'm not convinced that even Dennis Prager believes Dennis Prager's arguments, because they feature numerous inconsistencies. Let me put it a different way. Let's look at the two most likely motivations for Prager's arguments. (There may be other explanations, but I believe these two have it pretty well covered.) 1. Prager's opinion is made out of principle and based on logic. He sincerely believes that all elected officials should take their oaths of office on the same book, and if they don't it will do more damage to the value system that has formed this country than 9/11. He'd feel the same way if a Hindu wanted to swear on a Bhagavad Gita, a Scientologist on Dianetics, etc. 2. Prager just doesn't like the idea of an American official swearing his oath on the Koran, and he'll attempt whatever arguments he can against it, making them up as he goes along. The idea of the Bible as a "central text" that should sworn upon in the interests of supporting American civilization is just an excuse he's using to prevent a Muslim from swearing on his own holy text. (This does not have to be a conscious effort. For example, Andrew Sullivan may truly believe Bush's position on the FMA didn't affect his arguments.) The first inconsistency is in the video. The video starts with a discussion of Prager's quote: "...America is interested in only one book, the Bible. If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress." Volokh points out that according to the Constitution, you do not have to take an oath on that book, and that in fact Herbert Hoover did not swear on the Bible. I thought Prager's response was less than impressive: VOLOKH: Well, for starters the Constitution specifically says you may refuse to use any book for that... Now why exactly is that a different story? In his original piece, the video, and a follow-up response, Prager repeatedly stressed how important these ceremonies are; how important it is to honor the "central text", how it sends a message to the American people, and that an elected official is a part of "a society molded by the Bible and the people who believed in it, a fact he should be willing to honor as he is sworn in."* But an affirmation should run into the same problems. If you affirm, you are not honoring the "central text", and you are not honoring how the Bible and people who believed in it molded American society. How do affirmations avoid violating Prager's own main arguments? I couldn't help but come up with an uncharitable interpretation of his reply: Herbert Hoover had a Bible. At home. That he believed in. He doesn't have to do any honoring or ceremony because we all know he was a good Judeo-Christian and not the member of some heathen religion. Here's another problem with his argument. In his follow-up piece he states: It is not I, but Keith Ellison, who has engaged in disuniting the country. He can still help reunite it by simply bringing both books to his ceremonial swearing-in. Had he originally announced that he would do that, I would have written a different column -- filled with praise of him. And there would be a lot less cursing and anger in America. Now that's odd. Just three paragraphs above that statement, he says: I simply offered a slippery slope argument that if we let everyone choose their own text at swearings-in, what will happen one day should a racist decide to use "Mein Kampf"? Wouldn't that slippery slope argument still hold? If Ellison is allowed to bring both a Bible and another text, what would stop a racist from bringing both the Bible and Mein Kampf? How is that less horrible than bringing the Mein Kampf alone? Prager asked "On what grounds will those defending Ellison's right to choose his favorite book deny that same right to a racist who is elected to public office?" But on what grounds will those defending Ellison's right to choose his favorite book in addition to the Bible deny that same right to a racist who is elected to public office? (Incidentally, I'd say bringing up "Mein Kampf" is a bit out of place in a discussion of ceremonial protocol.) Prager states: Ceremonies matter a lot. As I told the Associated Press, ceremonies are essential to the continuity of a civilization. Therefore, the first time in American history that a congressman has decided to jettison the Bible for another text should not go unnoticed -- or elicit yawns, as it has from conservative and libertarian critics. and noted: Very many critics note the fact that members of Congress are not sworn in individually with Bibles but all together in the House chamber and without the Bible. The use of the Bible is a ceremonial act that takes place in private before family, friends and the press. My critics cite this fact as if somehow it invalidates my larger point. Yet in his first piece he stated: Keith Ellison... has announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran. Dennis Prager believes that ceremonies "are essential to the continuity of a civilization", but not so essential that he needed to know how they were performed. But maybe he already knew about the symbolic swearing-in in his first piece, and just didn't want to get bogged down in details. Yet if he already knew it was just a symbolic swearing-in, why didn't he make this argument (from his follow-up) in his first piece? Second, the very fact that it is a ceremony makes my point far more forcefully. Obviously, Mr. Ellison will have already been officially sworn in. Therefore, the use of the Koran has absolutely nothing to do with taking an oath on the book he holds sacred. It is used entirely to send a message to the American people. So all the arguments that he must be able to swear on the book he holds sacred are moot. He will have already been sworn in. Prager stated: But neither I nor tens of millions of other Americans will watch in silence as the Bible is replaced with another religious text for the first time since George Washington brought a Bible to his swearing-in. If Mr. Prager believes it's relevant to discuss the presence of the Bible during Presidential oaths of office, perhaps he could explain how America survived after John Quincy Adams took his oath on "a book of laws, the Constitution and American laws". Or how American civilization managed to continue after Theodore Roosevelt's swearing-in. Odd, too, that Mr. Prager would state: First, it was Keith Ellison who raised the entire issue of taking an oath on a Koran rather than a Bible. He did not make his announcement in the hopes that it would be ignored but to make a statement. I was responding to that statement. Critics who are unhappy with it becoming an issue should direct their ire at Mr. Ellison. Really? We should direct our ire at Mr. Ellison because he raised the issue? Well, I am very disappointed in Dennis Prager. Where were you? Imagine if Ellison hadn't announced his intentions, if he had kept quiet on his intention to use a Koran. It could have done "more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11." You said you were "so aware of the fragility of all civilizations, including ours," yet you almost let this happen! To think, if not for Ellison's public statement, the Republic may have been lost! Prager says: Bigoted against whom? Against non-Christians? I am a non-Christian. Am I bigoted against myself as a Jew? I happen to be one of the most active individuals in American Jewish life and co-author of probably the most widely used English-language introduction to Judaism of the last 30 years. Bigoted against whom? I think the answer is obvious. Made even more obvious by the little dance he does around it. The answer is Muslims. He conveniently defines it in terms of non-Christians so he can put Jews and Muslims in the same category, thus claiming he can't be bigoted against himself. Yet his arguments differentiate between the Jews using the their holy text ("part of the American Bible" and ok) and Muslims using their holy text (destroys America). Do any of you think he didn't think about Muslims when he was forming that particular argument against his own bigotry? He was certainly thinking about Muslims earlier: So why are we allowing Keith Ellison to do what no other member of Congress has ever done -- choose his own most revered book for his oath? Now did that sound like an argument from principle? Or does it sound like "I don't like the Koran"? If it's an argument from principle, why would you let yourself be sidetracked by dealing with arguments that are specific to Muslims? For example: Ellison's doing so will embolden Islamic extremists and make new ones, as Islamists, rightly or wrongly, see the first sign of the realization of their greatest goal -- the Islamicization of America. I have trouble imagining Mr. Prager making a similar argument about "the Hinduization of America." Dennis Prager claims to be free of bigotry, much in the same way Andrew Sullivan claims to be a conservative. That doesn't mean I think he'll run out and attack a Muslim, any more than I thought Trent Lott was going to go out burn a cross on somebody's lawn. That's a matter for his own conscience. If I have successfully shown the weakness of his arguments, I'm content. Posted by Dorkafork at December 12, 2006 10:00 AM | TrackBack (0) Trackback PingsTrackBack URL for this entry: CommentsExcellent post. You neglected one possible motivating factor for Prager's flight of fantasy, however: Controversy Sells. By pandering to "Those Who Will Be Outraged" (i.e., his normal audience), Prager assure himself of a blip in the listenership ratings. That's good, at least for Prager's business model. That it's divisive, factually incorrect, stupid, and morally wrong just aren't factors in this equation. Posted by: John Burgess at December 12, 2006 11:00 AM I tried to keep the possible explanations as charitable as possible. Posted by: dorkafork at December 12, 2006 07:01 PM It seems to me that Islam is an intolerant religion in that Islam comes first and all else comes secondary. If push came to shove would Mr. Ellison chose Islam or America? The Koran has no foundation in US society or politics. What bothers me is that he is discarding the bible totally. He can take his oath on the Koran but like others have in the past, take the bible along for the ride to show his heart is in the right place. This is America isn't it? When in Rome, do as the Romans. In other words, respect this great country that has given him this opportunity. It's amazing how often the point is missed over the sake of argument only to come back to bite us...again! Posted by: Joe R at December 13, 2006 12:13 AM I think this is a post with a lot of words, yet starts from an incorrect premise. You write: I believe it is clear Prager is not asking for a law to enforce this, merely making his argument a violation of the spirit of the Constitution if not the letter. I think you have this wrong. Prager was making an argument from the point of view of tradition, namely American cultural tradition in so far as it relates to our elected leaders' symbolic oath-taking. What I don't understand is why everyone is putting their head in the sand about the importance of the Bible to the history of this country. Look -- let's put this to the "Jeopardy" test. If, on the game show, there was an answer "the book commonly associated with oaths politicians take upon entering office", what would be the correct answer? And, not only that, but what would 99.99% of the answers be by Jeopardy contestants? This entire issue is one of broad symbolism, about what traditions, customs, and rituals constitute American culture. To reduce this to bigotry is both unfair and ignorant of what's at stake. It is, after all, important to understand our American identity, and to stand up for it. This passage is particularly wrong-headed: Imagine if Ellison hadn't announced his intentions, if he had kept quiet on his intention to use a Koran. It could have done "more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11." You said you were "so aware of the fragility of all civilizations, including ours," yet you almost let this happen! To think, if not for Ellison's public statement, the Republic may have been lost!You are missing Prager's implicit point, that it is the symbolism of Bible-oath-taking, being one of our American traditions, that is being violated. Keeping quiet would have not violated the symbolic history of the tradition, and would have been entirely preferable. If you don't value the Bible, that is your choice; but to claim that Americans through their history haven't valued this book far more than any other sacred books, is dishonest. Understanding this is key to understanding where Prager is coming from. md Posted by: Matthew Dallman at December 13, 2006 03:19 PM sorry -- 2nd to last paragraph has italics runneth over. shoud be: Imagine if Ellison hadn't announced his intentions, if he had kept quiet on his intention to use a Koran. It could have done "more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11." You said you were "so aware of the fragility of all civilizations, including ours," yet you almost let this happen! To think, if not for Ellison's public statement, the Republic may have been lost! You are missing Prager's implicit point, that it is the symbolism of Bible-oath-taking, being one of our American traditions, that is being violated. Keeping quiet would have not violated the symbolic history of the tradition, and would have been entirely preferable. Posted by: Matthew Dallman at December 13, 2006 03:21 PM If I could coin a phrase, it would be "tradition is the last refuge of the bigot". That's not to say tradition in and of itself is bad. It certainly sounds nice. Who could be against tradition? But all tradition is, is something that's been done over and over for a long time. And that's it. "That's they way we've always done it." It doesn't, by itself, tell us whether we should or should not continue this tradition, because traditions can be ugly. And it's a hallmark of prejudice. "We ain't never let a black man (blank), and we never will." A person could just as easily say "No woman has ever been President, so it's a tradition, and it shouldn't be broken. She should just voluntarily not run for office." It would also fit a Jeopardy answer on gender of former Presidents. That would clearly violate the principles of this country, but so is the "must have a Bible" argument. I simply do not understand why some people seem to think tradition (a content-free argument), trumps the reasoning behind the Constitution. Be it enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish enlarge, or affect their civil capacities. Prager thinks that is narcissistic. And yes, nearly all the Framers were big on the Bible. Great! It's important to American history. Sure! They're free to bring it along to their swearing-in ceremony. Have a blast! And one more thing. Is the tradition really "they brought a Bible to their swearing-in"? Or is it "they brought their own religious text to the swearing-in"? Posted by: dorkafork at December 13, 2006 10:21 PM When you quote the Constition, dorkafork, to show that tradition does not "trump the reasoning behind the Constitution," you are engaging in circular logic. Further, Prager's point (agree with it or not) is not that tradition trumps the reasoning behind the Constitution, but that tradition (i.e., natural law as it was understood by the Founders) is the philosophical foundation for the Constition. Therefore, Ellison, by publicly making a point of not adhering to a common and long-standing gesture of acknowledgment (as Prager explicitly said he sees the gesture) toward said tradition seems to symbolically negate that tradition. Again, Prager is talking about symbolism here, not law - call that focus on the import on symbolism misplaced, but I think your certitude when casting asperions on Prager's ulterior motive is improper. Call Prager's historical analysis wrong, or call the conventional wisdom wrong regarding the early Founders' purpose behind swearing in on the Bible. I disagree with your seeming agnosticism on that point of view, but my reading of history is by no means expert, and I won't attempt to prove or disprove such here. (Though many very well-credendtialed "experts" do hold this as a given; but I permit, they could, conceivably, be wrong.) Still, I really think you are a bit less circumspect about your conclusions re. Prager's motives than you should be. Posted by: MJS I'm sorry. I made a bad assumption. I assumed my fellow Americans thought the Constitution was important. But apparently it pales in importance next to "tradition." It is a statement of fact to say that the Constitution does not have any escape clause for "tradition". But I guess as Americans we have to weigh "we've always done it this way" against the text of the Constitution. Somehow, someway, the "tradition" on how officials take their oath of office to support and defend the Constitution is more important than the Constitution itself. Ellison has every right under the Constitution to break the "tradition" of swearing in with a Bible as a female would have every right to break the "tradition" of only men being Presidents of the US. Call Prager's historical analysis wrong, I've demonstrated it. Presidents Hoover and Pierce didn't swear on a Bible. Neither did Teddy Roosevelt or John Quincy Adams. Nor did Lyndon Johnson, he used a missal. Somehow America survived. ...or call the conventional wisdom wrong regarding the early Founders' purpose behind swearing in on the Bible. The early Founders did not specify the oath should be on the Bible. The text from the Constitution about the oath states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. "No religious test" directly follows the sentence that set up the oath in the first place. (And the use of a semicolon indicates the sentences are related.) But there I go again with that circular logic on how an oath to support the Constitution should maybe take the Constitution into account. Posted by: dorkafork at December 14, 2006 09:17 PM |
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