But what's truly surprising to me

But it isn't. Not really.

It is/was, kind of. Honestly, I thought that not even certain predictable quarters would touch it. Or if they did, they wouldn't actually brush off the threats themselves as inconsequential.

I guess I don't put anything past them anymore. Honestly? I'm surprised more of them haven't defended her.

But it's the weekend. Wait 'til Monday.

There are no bad people on the left, Bill. There are only good people who've been driven to desperation by conservative evil.

Or so the crocheted throw pillow resting on my couch tells me.

Ok, slightly off topic but the next time some idiot asks me if I have seen Wag The Dog, Bowling for Columbine or *spit* The Corporation I am totally doing that "I'm not touching you!" thing. That will make it all better.

"It happens all the time[?]" I wonder what online circles she travels in ... "

Here is an example from Pandagon last week:

"All I know is the word “sweetheart” was used, and usually that means something like, “I hate women but can’t get my dick hard enough to rape one.”

Near as I can tell, they travel in very, very tight circles, and the ensuing dizziness leads to a paranoid hallucenogenic state that is not very condusive to discourse. But I could be wrong.

"All I know is the word “sweetheart” was used, and usually that means something like, “I hate women but can’t get my dick hard enough to rape one.”

Good gravy. I use that all the time with my two female dogs...does that mean I want to rape them or something? I tell ya' these people have a pathology I just don't understand.

Thank you, Bill, for your kind notice.

I've only just become aware you linked; neither the "trackback" nor "pingback" technologies are perfect, alas.

cordially, De Doc

"For my part, I'll simply say this: if you can't unequivocally condemn something like this, you've got a grubby soul."

Ok, here we go...

1. I condemn Deb for saying what she did.

2. I condemn Jeff for having the kind of site where flame wars can get to this point

3. I condemn all the "weeping ladies," who can't see it WAS JUST A FLAME WAR. All the hyperbole is sickening and disingenuous.

Ken -

Talking about "tongue kissing" and murdering a toddler is not a normal "flame war," you sick, sick man. Seriously, there is something wrong with your head.

I suggest you gather your superficial equivalencies, fashion them into a handy wire brush and scrub your brainpan.

Hope that helps illuminate things for you a bit.

Regards,

Bill

Haven't seen many flame wars then have you, newbie? Did you think they came with Marquis of Queensbury rules?

Fortunately, seasoned flame wars observers can see it for what it is and see YOUR "sick, sick," schtick for what is is too.

Now, what part of "I condemn Deb," didn't you understand?

Haven't seen many flame wars then have you, newbie? Did you think they came with Marquis of Queensbury rules?

If you knew anything about me, you'd know how stupid and ironic that comment is.

And most "seasoned flame war observers" know that intimating threats about molesting and killing someone's two year old is inhuman behavior that's beyond the pale of (most of) the nastiest internet discourse. With the exception of the NAMBLA/serial killer chat rooms that "some" may frequent, I suppose.

Essentially, you're not really "condemning" Deb at all, given that you're brushing off her clearly unbalanced behavior as de rigeur, workaday meanness.

Basically, you're a loser with no sense of proportion regarding how people view violent or sexualized comments about children.

Oops - my time for explaining common decency to a rhetorical roach like you just ran out at a full 132 seconds. Goodbye.

Here are the posts where Frisch first appeared on my site.

I guess I'm to be condemned for running the kind of site that can discuss issues seriously, and then leave comments open for others to discuss them to.

Perhaps Ken is for leaving the discussion to PhDs only. So that they can tell us what to think and feel.

Which, in Deb's case, is that some of us are subhuman, and our "progeny" expendable.

Try thinking for yourself, Ken, instead of parroting things about my site that you've been told.

I learned everything I needed to know about you, your site and your fans when you made that NAMBLA crack.

Way to go.

Take a walk, ken.

Neither me nor my "fans" minimize or rationalize violent, sexualized commentary about toddlers. In short, it's safe to say that we don't "appreciate your perspective."

Jeff....what she said was dispicable but you admitted you let it go on so she would "show her ass." That you weren't prepared for the ass you got is sad but you might have seen it coming is all I was saying.

Despite all this I like your site, normally and have never "parroted," anything about it. I also abhor the DoS and hope the fiends get caught and punished.

I'm gone Bill. Save that NAMBLA line tho....this site can use it again I'm sure.

Only if you come back, I'm sure. Amusing that a relevant comment like that has you more up in arms, than, you know, Frisch's comments.

You've got a level head on your shoulders, ken.

Troll alert.

Ken --

I allowed her to show her ass because she insisted I'd ban her. She even gave a time by which I was to do it.

The thing is, I didn't care much about what she had to say. I don't check my comments obsessively unless I happen to be online and not doing something else.

So by "letting her show her ass" all I meant was I didn't ban her. She was doing fine making a fool of herself without the martyrdom that comes with being able to claim your free speech was stifled.

I don't have comment registration. Part of that is that I receive hundreds of comments per thread sometimes. The downside is, lots of trolls drop by.

Some of them I ban. But I don't police my comments all day and night.

This is what many sites on the left that have comment moderation don't seem to understand.

Jeff:

About the collectivists with comment moderation, who don't seem to understand?

TW: projection. *wry grin*

Oooh! Ooh! Ooh! I wanna condemn. Can I condemn?

I condemn Ken for condemning Jeff for having an open comment site, and for not putting the blame for the showing of ass squarely on the shoulders connected to the back connected to the hip connected to the ass of the person who showed it.

I condemn myself for being a party to the kind of site that allows Ken to condemn Jeff for having the kind of site where flame wars can get to this point.

I'm surprised to see someone put forth the proverbial "had a short skirt and was asking for it" argument.

If Frisch deserves condemnation, what verb is adequate for the moral relativists who excuse, condone, minimize her actions?

Uhm, don't know about a verb but how about a noun? We could call them....frischbait!

(Pauses for the inevitable groans).

So, would being addicted to the scandal mean that I'd been Frischooked?