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February 14, 2006


Posted by Bill

Family fun!

(Warning: video of terrified 9 year-old, but detail says "Everyone had a good laugh after it was over (Justice & Chad).")

I pranked Goldstein like that once, same reaction.

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Uh, not so much.

Posted by: West at February 14, 2006 06:24 PM

Are you kidding? That guy is Dad of the Year!

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 14, 2006 06:39 PM

I'm with West- the kid is too young to be the butt of this joke, don't you think?

Posted by: John at February 14, 2006 06:39 PM

Bear in mind this is from a father with a glorious history of using psychological torture to harden his offspring...

Posted by: John at February 14, 2006 06:47 PM

I don't think so, looks about 9 or 10 years-old to me. My brother hit me with jokes a lot scarier than something popping up on a screen when I was 10, and look how great I turned out.

...

Hello? Er, nevermind.

Obviously the kid's temperment isn't up for it, but what makes the stepdad cruel is that he keeps filming instead of comforting when the kid starts wailing, hence the "Dad of the Year" comment above. That was bemused irony. "Family Fun?" Also bemused irony. Sort of.

Man, bunch of wet blankets around here! Though it's very possible that I'm just twisted.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 14, 2006 06:48 PM

Well, to be fair, in your version of the prank, the part that freaked me out was you being naked and buried hip-deep in a buffalo's ass cavity.

So there's a little difference -- though yes, the reaction was similar.

Posted by: Jeff G at February 14, 2006 07:43 PM

rank sadism - what a hoot!

Posted by: pandelume at February 14, 2006 10:17 PM

Well, we don't like any of that watered-down sadism in these parts.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 14, 2006 10:37 PM

Not funny. Do it to your adult friends, not a little kid. That's abuse, and some kids really do have trouble getting over things like this.

Maybe you didn't, but for the record I put "my brother did way worse stuff to me" claims in the same bucket as "I have this really hot girlfriend in Montana."

Now here, on the other hand, is something that would be downright hysterical: set up Mr. Stepdad so that the next time he goes to make a bank deposit, there's a pretend holdup and he's held hostage along with a bunch of actors who are in on the "joke." Then have the gunmen start executing the hostages, one by one, complete with exploding blood packets and hysterical screams from the remaining hostages ("oh my God, we're going to DIE!"). Then, right when they're about to whack Stepdad, SURPRISE! JUST KIDDING!!

Isn't that HILARIOUS? I would just LAUGH MY ASS off if I saw that.

And of course, being the lover of practical jokes that he is, we just KNOW ol' Stepdad would get a good chuckle from THAT one! Guys like him always make the best sports.

Posted by: BobC at February 17, 2006 01:57 PM

BobC -

Hike up your skirt and dial back your meds. A little face popping up on a computer screen is not quite equivalent to convincing a man that he's going to be EXECUTED. As for this:

Maybe you didn't, but for the record I put "my brother did way worse stuff to me" claims in the same bucket as "I have this really hot girlfriend in Montana."

My older brother and I used to have live firefights in the house with pellet guns. He once locked me outside in 10 degree weather for an hour, after shoving snow down my pants. I could go on. All of which is a bit scarier - again - than having a little face pop up on a computer screen.

I mean, unless you're self-righteous little Susie that calls a popular viral internet joke played on a 9 or 10 year-old "child abuse," lecturing folks about propriety (and honesty) like a squawking hen on the internet.

Christ, you must be such a pussy.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 17, 2006 02:26 PM

Oh that is rich. In a post that accuses me of over-reacting you called me (wait, let me get out my calculator), "Susie, the self-righteous, under-medicated, skirt-hiking, squawking-hen pussy."

Did I miss one?

Whatever, it seems pretty ironic that you're mocking MY hyper-sensitivity.

In my book, if a child is traumatized (by his own parent/guardian, no less), he's traumatized, whether it lives up to your standard for mental toughness or not. But I guess that's just the pussy in me talking.

For the record, I don't think a mock execution is funny either, but I think experiencing real terror would serve this guy right. But since you obviously think that crosses the line, just who gets to make up the rules about what is or isn't out of bounds? You?

--Susie, the self-righteous, under-medicated, skirt-hiking, squawking-hen pussy

Posted by: BobC at February 17, 2006 03:39 PM

In a post that accuses me of over-reacting you called me (wait, let me get out my calculator), "Susie, the self-righteous, under-medicated, skirt-hiking, squawking-hen pussy."

Ah, but I'm grinning whilst doing it, employing artistic metaphor. You, on the other hand, have your little brow knitted in righteous outrage, and are dead serious in your hyperbolic comparison of MOCK EXECUTIONS with a COMPUTER POP-UP GRAPHIC. For the love of CHRIST.

In my book, if a child is traumatized (by his own parent/guardian, no less), he's traumatized, whether it lives up to your standard for mental toughness or not. But I guess that's just the pussy in me talking.

For the record, I don't think a mock execution is funny either, but I think experiencing real terror would serve this guy right. But since you obviously think that crosses the line, just who gets to make up the rules about what is or isn't out of bounds? You?

I don't know, by that same logic, do you make the rules about what is or isn't out of bounds? What constitutes "traumatized?"

And if so, tell me: do you think that jumping out from behind a door and yelling "BOO!" is "child abuse," if the kid in question unknowingly has a temperment that causes him to start crying like you just shot him in the face?

Or how about adults - if ANY adult feels a certain level of terror, is that abuse as well, nevermind that one might reasonably describe the cause as something not prone to cause mental trauma?

What about those America's Funniest Home videos, where a child starts crying maniacally over a silly little fall, or a pet jumping on him? Is that "child abuse" as well?

My, these questions are complex.

Come off of your HIGH HORSE. The kid was spooked by a common internet joke. I think the guy was cold-blooded for continuing to film after the kid reacted abnormally, but don't for a second put forth that the surprising graphic is some form of outsized sadistic abuse akin to mock executions, Dr. Spock.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 17, 2006 03:49 PM

Really? Your responses seem pretty defensive to me (for the love of CHRIST), but we'll let the audience decide. Curiously, though, for all of my know-britting outrage, only one of us is hurling invective. You'd think my indignation would have resulted in a response in kind if I were really so incensed.

But as long as we're hypothesizing, how would it change the equation if this kid ended up having nightmares every night for 6 months? Or would that simply canonize him among the "skirt-hiking pussies" in your view?

At the end of the day, I don't care for adults who get their jollies by frightening kids. It's nothing more than bullying in my book, and a betrayal of the natural trust that children have in authority figures. Maybe a mock execution is over the top, but I have a visceral disdain for bullies. If that makes me a pussy in your eyes I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

--Susie etc.

Posted by: BobC at February 17, 2006 04:57 PM

What you're correctly interpreting as "defensive" is annoyance at someone intimating that I'm full of it, as you implicitly did in your first comment. You want detail? ASK.

Otherwise, I find holier-than-thou comments both amusing and exasperating, all at the same time.

But as long as we're hypothesizing, how would it change the equation if this kid ended up having nightmares every night for 6 months?

I'd say that the kid had emotional problems, and thus the gag was unfortunate/inappropriate for his sensibilities.

Note that this doesn't make the gag itself - by its nature - "child abuse."

I have a visceral disdain for bullies.

So do I, but I don't automatically classify practical joking as bullying. There's quite a bit of context involved in such a judgment, context that you feel comfortable assuming. Again, the dad was cold-blooded for not comforting the kid, I agree. But that doesn't make the prank itself such a terrible act, and it doesn't warrant outsized comparisons and metaphors, lest some guy on the internet label you MANGINATRON 3000: 21st CENTURY SCOLD FOR THE DIGITAL AGE.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 17, 2006 05:12 PM

You’re right; I shouldn’t have accused you like that, I’m sorry. It’s just that I have so often heard the “my older brother did way worse” excuse and taken to its logical endpoint you can use it to justify damn near anything. But no excuses, it was a cheap shot.

I’m curious – despite what your brother did to you, would you have played this joke on your own son? I’m guessing not, but maybe we just have a radically different view of where the boundary lines should be drawn.

For my part, I suppose I am a bit sensitive. My wife’s sister got pregnant at 14, married her alcoholic boyfriend (17), and had 3 girls by age 20. A couple of marriages later, she ended up hitched to Harley biker guy who physically, emotionally, and sexually abused all 4 of them (mom and daughters). Now my nieces are just screwed up beyond all reckoning – they’ve married felons, illegal aliens, had out-of-wedlock babies, lived on the streets, drug abuse, you name it. We’ve been trying to help them out financially but they just keep making the same mistakes over and over. It’s pretty heartbreaking.

Anyway, I could definitely see their stepfather playing a joke like that on them at an impressionable age. And while this is sheer speculation on my part, something tells me that the guy who filmed his stepson probably isn’t God’s gift to humanity either.

Posted by: BobC at February 17, 2006 06:16 PM

I’m curious – despite what your brother did to you, would you have played this joke on your own son?

Nah, but what my bro did was far worse than the prank in question, IMO. The worst my dad ever did to me was fart in the car with the windows rolled up. Which was actually pretty evil, now that I stop and think about it.

All right, I apreciate where you're coming from, so I think we can shake hands and end this as friends with different frames of reference.

Even though you're still a wuss. (I kid, I kid)

Posted by: Bill from INDC at February 17, 2006 07:24 PM

Agreed.

Out.

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