I fail to see any value in a Bloody Santa beyond eliciting a minor negative reaction in some adults and something a bit more crueler for small children. It may not be yelling fire in a crowded theatre, but it doesn't offer any real value. If this was a museum or private display, I'd have no problem with it. However, this display is not optional for those who live in the area. People shouldn't be forced to be subjected to what essentially amounts to an insult.

Although the marines actions were wrong, I concur that this isn't what he fought for either.

jpm100 is right, that Marine fought so I have the freedom to watch llama porn.

I fail to see any value in a Bloody Santa beyond eliciting a minor negative reaction in some adults and something a bit more crueler for small children. It may not be yelling fire in a crowded theatre, but it doesn't offer any real value.

The litmus test for free expression isn't whether it has value, or whether it's not provocative. If that were the case, Hubris and Dorkafork would probably be on a fast boat to China right now.

There are indecency statutes that exist in many states and locales, but obviously this display didn't violate them. Shrug.

People shouldn't be forced to be subjected to what essentially amounts to an insult.

Are you being serious?

Hehe, reminds me of the Simpsons scene where Homer thinks Marine guards are like the Buckingham Palace Guards who can't change expressions.

"Hey, are you like those guards that can't do anything no matter what I do? Neeneer neener neener -- OW!" Marine punches him in face.

"No sir! U.S. Marines sir!"

Much as I disagree with what he did -- offensive displays have the right to exist -- ya gotta love the Marine spirit.

I would suggest that there probably is a law to prevent this and fear of PC judges stopped the police or city from removing it.

I would suggest that there probably is a law to prevent this and fear of PC judges stopped the police or city from removing it.

I fear that you may be a tad paranoid about "PC Judges" influencing how cops enforce misdemeanor law.

First of all there are no "ex-Marine's." Once a Marine always a Marine.

Secondly, offensive displays do not have rights. People have rights. The First Amendment applies to the government, ie: Congress shall pass no law. . . . . . . This is not a free speech issue unless the Marine was acting as an agent of the government. This amounts to a case of tresspassing and destruction of property.

Even if this were a freedom-of-speech issue, I think an argument might be made that a "bloody, knife-wielding Santa" is an "R" rated message, and that displaying it in full view of a public thoroughfare constitutes placing it in a "G" rated environment.

Nit-picking aside (e.g. "it's not a movie" and "this is not a business enterprise"), the precedent of restricting freedom of speech in the public interest is clearly established in precedent; the question is whether frightening children and disturbing pedestrians is so indistinguishable from really important speech that it should be allowed to hide behind its skirts to avoid sensible (and irate) correction by private citizens not otherwise completely devoid of common sense.

However, as someone else noted, this fellow was not even serving as an agent of the Government in his act of knocking down the display. The rules governing the actions of private citizens are certainly different than those restricting functionaries in their official capacities.

Secondly, offensive displays do not have rights. People have rights. The First Amendment applies to the government, ie: Congress shall pass no law. . . . . . . This is not a free speech ...

Thanks for the info, but let's recap: There are no statutes governing indecency in this case (thus no conflict beyond property rights), the ex-Marine's (Oops, sorry, MARINE'S!) angle on serving his country for certain types of expression was mildly ironic and lightly noted, and no, no one is making a serious comprehensive argument about freedom of speech for this story that requires a lecture appropriate for fourth grade social studies class. Thank you.

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