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November 04, 2005
Why Wilson is a Liar and Wrong - The Dummies Guide

Posted by Dorkafork

A brief overview:

Sent at the behest of the Vice President: This was language used by Nicholas Kristof (among others). This is disingenuous. He was not specifically asked by the office of the Vice President to go to Niger, nor was anyone specifically asked by the VP's office to go to Niger. The CIA at a lower level decided on its own to send someone to get more information to help answer a question that a senior administration official had asked. But this is a little thing. I am willing to give Wilson a pass on this and assume it was just a case of reporters lying, and not Wilson himself. I am magnanimous on this, because he has been caught red-handed in other lies. Even though it is possible that Wilson lied about this to reporters, the same way he lied about...

The forged Niger documents: Wilson told his story to several reporters, saying that he had seen documents that were impossible for him to have seen. A deliberate effort to ensure "that this story has legs", one that got him "cited in reports in the New York Times and in the Washington Post, and now in the Guardian." Specifically cited by Kristof, who said "this senior envoy briefed the C.I.A. and State Department and reported that the documents were bogus." Also cited by Pincus, who reported "Among the envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong,' the former U.S. government official said." According to the SSCI report(pdf), Wilson admitted he was the source for the WaPo article, but claimed he "misspoke." As Tom Maguire put it recently, "Kristof, Pincus of the WaPo, and Judis and Ackerman of The New Republic all misheard him?"

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."*: Flat out lie. The SSCI report(pdf) is a must-read, from pg. 36 onwards. Plame recommended him for the trip and convened the meeting where his trip was initially discussed.

(The Art of Weaselly Semi-Corrections by Kaus today on Kristof is a must read.)

Even if he had not lied, he would simply be wrong. He asked former officials (none of whom were currently serving in the Nigerien government) about a deal that they would be unlikely to admit to. He then comes back with a piece of information that the analysts thought bolstered the case that Iraq was seeking a uranium deal with Niger. And yet, somehow he believes he disproved that "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." He's either lying or he is a fool who, like many on the left, do not understand the difference between "sought" and "obtained". (Not the first words they've had trouble understanding.)

Update (11/8): Be sure to read the comments, they include a bonus Wilson lie.

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Many Bush critics also don’t seem to understand the difference between the words “Niger” and “Africa”.

Posted by: jmaster at November 4, 2005 06:35 PM

Sent at the behest of the Vice President

Weak, as you stated. Wilson never himself claimed to have been sent by Cheney.

The forged Niger documents

Same. When you want to point out someone is a liar, can't you just simply state what they said and how that differs with facts, with supporting links that one can read. Stringing a bunch of if A then B, then C, therefore D sort-of conclusions together doesn't help your case. I thought this was a dummies guide. :)

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."

Flat out non-lie. The conclusions written at the end of the SSCI report have been debunked, entirely.

Wilson in a letter to Salon.com:

  • I never claimed to have "debunked" the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. I claimed only that the transaction described in the documents that turned out to be forgeries could not have occurred and did not occur. I did not speak out on the subject until several months after it became evident that what underpinned the assertion in the State of the Union address were those documents, reports of which had sparked Vice President Cheney's original question that led to my trip.

Is that all?

Posted by: rabit at November 7, 2005 12:55 PM

jmaster:

Niger is located in Western Africa. What's your point?

Posted by: rabit at November 7, 2005 12:56 PM

He told Kristof of the Times, Pincus of the WaPo, and Judis and Ackerman of The New Republic that "this senior envoy briefed the C.I.A. and State Department and reported that the documents were bogus, for two main reasons", that "Among the envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong,'", and "He returned after a visit to Niger in February 2002 and reported to the State Department and the CIA that the documents were forgeries." 3 different reporters at 3 different papers/magazines all heard him "misspeak" that he "reported the documents were bogus", "(concluded) that the documents may have been forged and "reported to the State Department and the CIA that the documents were forgeries", respectively. He admitted he had not seen the forgeries at that time and so could not have reported or concluded anything about them. Kristof now says that Wilson never mentioned them. Pincus quite conspicuously does not, in a story that appeared the same day he supposedly e-mailed Wilson to say Wilson didn't mention them. Shame he didn't use the story he was co-writing to say the same thing.

Posted by: dorkafork at November 8, 2005 01:41 AM

Along the Pincus lines, Kristof's only mention of this in print is in his correction:

"Wilson has said that he misspoke when he made references to the documents to me and to two other journalists. By the time we spoke in 2003, these problems in the documents had been pointed out and were in the public domain, but apparently not in early 2002. So while it’s possible that he reported that the signatures were wrong, that seems to me unlikely."

Now that is odd. There is no denial there, nothing like "I was the reporter he talked to and he did not say he had seen the forged documents. I'm sorry for the confusion." Nothing like that at all. (This is going by Kaus' and Maguire's accounts. The actual correction is safe from prying non-Select eyes. I trust Kaus a hell of a lot more than Wilson.)

Posted by: dorkafork at November 8, 2005 01:53 AM

And you can talk about the addendums all you want, I was referencing the body of the report, starting on page 36.

Posted by: dorkafork at November 8, 2005 01:54 AM

Incidentally, I considered "Wilson Lied" to be a minor detail that is much less important than "Wilson was wrong".

Posted by: dorkafork at November 8, 2005 01:59 AM

No, as I quoted in a later thread;

Wilson writes:

I did not misstate the facts as Nick Kristof acknowledged in an email to me that is in the first chapter of the new edition (paperback) of the book. Pincus also acknowledged that to me in a telephone call in July 2004, and again just two days ago in an email. This is part of the misreporting that I tried to correct in my original article on July 6, 2003 in which I said clearly that I had never seen the documents. What motive would I have in saying something so demonstrably false since the USG did not even have the documents in question at the time I was asked to go to Niger. All discussion with both Kristof and Pincus was about information that al Baradai brought to the public in his March, 2003 testimony before the UN.

More...

Chalk this one up to sloppy reporting. Seems to be contagious. ;)

Now I return you to your regular programming.

Posted by: rabit at November 8, 2005 02:32 PM

No, I read that.

The problem is that we only have Wilson's word for it. Kristof didn't seem to mention it in a public (well, semi-public) correction. Pincus pointedly did not in a story the same day he supposedly e-mailed Wilson. I haven't seen any recent stories/corrections by Judis and Ackerman, so I don't know about them. (Forgot to mention, in the Judis/Ackerman piece, there is yet another lie by Wilson: "The CIA circulated the ambassador's report to the vice president's office, the ambassador confirms to TNR." Confirming something he did not know and was, in fact, false.)

Yeah, sloppy reporting by (oops, miscounted earlier) 4 different reporters at 3 different publications all were similarly "sloppy" in the exact same way. That's pretty darn contagious!

Posted by: dorkafork at November 9, 2005 02:00 AM

See also this piece that links to Wilson's letter to the WaPo ombudsman. No mention of not seeing forged documents there.

The last paragraph of his letter is hilarious. It's a perfect example of the Chewbacca Defense.

The facts surrounding my trip remain the same. I traveled to Niger and found it unlikely that Iraq had attempted to purchase several hundred tons of yellowcake uranium. In his 2003 State of the Union address, President Bush referred to Iraqi attempts to purchase uranium "from Africa." Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Between March 2003 and July 2003, the administration refused to acknowledge that it had known for more than a year that the claim on uranium sales from Niger had been discredited, until the day after my article in the New York Times.

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