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October 19, 2005
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Posted by Bill

Me?

The meme is spreading.

And Dean, you could have corrected the ridiculous amount of typos ...

UPDATE: the Final Historian belatedly contributes to the conversation with an interesting post on the concept of "satisficement."

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At least you're interesting enough to have people quote you. My IM logs are full of "How did you get this address?" and "I don't know if a restraining order will work in Cyberspace or not, but we'll see"/

Posted by: Sharp as a Marble at October 19, 2005 12:33 PM

Interesting, yes.

Funny, no.

meh.

Posted by: Sinner at October 19, 2005 01:24 PM

Your comments at 20:27 sound very similar to some of the concepts promoted by the more scientific backers of intelligent design theory...

Posted by: jmaster at October 19, 2005 02:16 PM

Take that back.

But seriously, a perceived continuity between biological, political, cultural, etc. systems commonly striving for equilibrium, and only achieving new equilibriums via controlled, adaptive challenges doesn't have much to do with theorizing about sentience, theology, first cause or "design." It's just observation of a pattern.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at October 19, 2005 02:21 PM

I agree it doesn’t have much to do with the first three. But it could be pertinent to design, through the “design re-use” thing.

Posted by: jmaster at October 19, 2005 02:26 PM

Can't comment much now, but wanted to say in passing -
Malcom Gladwell gets a lot of grief for being popular, but you might enjoy his "Tipping Point" book.

Posted by: WANTED TERRI SCHIAVO DEAD! at October 19, 2005 03:07 PM

That sig was an accident, but I guess is fits in with the idea that screaming meamiedom can string things out, but also can polarize and mobilize reasonable people to get off their duffs and block the screamers.

Posted by: SarahW at October 19, 2005 03:10 PM

I've long been a firm believer in the tendencies of systems to revert to a sort of equilibrium.

In that sense, you can look at many things through a completely different light. You can, for example, consider everything in terms of supply & demand. Take crime for instance. The product being supplied is that which is stolen. The price paid is the penalty for committing the crime multiplied by the probability of being caught.

Another example would be Robert Anton Wilson's fictional "secret" society (scare quotes because they operate in the open) called the Invisible Hand Society. Their motto is, "TANSTAGI," or, "There ain't no such thing as government interference." Their idea is that everything follows supply and demand (in which outcomes are determined by an equilibrium created by supply & demand). This includes government, which is really just another form of market interaction, despite the normally assumed framework wherein government actions operate outside of the market.

Good God, did I actually just leave a serious comment here? And there for a moment I was just going to write some toss-off comment about how your conversations with Goldstein are vastly more entertaining.

Posted by: Beck at October 19, 2005 04:00 PM

Damn. I must learn how to use IM. At this rate I'll arrive at podcasting by the time we're actually disengaging from these fleshy meatsacks we currently inhabit and take on a purely digital form.

Posted by: sortapundit at October 19, 2005 04:20 PM

Thanks for the link. I got the second part up too, which is something I usually forget to do.

Posted by: Final Historian at October 19, 2005 09:46 PM

FH is cool. I like smart people.

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