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August 15, 2005
Random IM Conversation with Goldstein, Eleven

Posted by Bill

INDCBill: man
INDCBill: it's remarkable
INDCBill: how yelling and swearing at people cuts through layers of beauraucratic inaction
INDCBill: I call a credit card company, politely request some paperwork, and it's a 7 to 10-day wait
INDCBill: I call back later and get a bit more agitated
INDCBill: and it's knocked down to 48 hours
INDCBill: finally, I call back again
INDCBill: yell, swear, cajole, threaten to burn their call center to the ground
INDCBill: and it's on my desk within 30 minutes
INDCBill: I mean
INDCBill: why do I have to cuss and yell?
INDCBill: is this the lesson that I'm supposed to learn?
INDCBill: that instead of issuing polite yet urgent requests
INDCBill: YELLING is the way to make things REALLY happen?
INDCBill: ?
INDCBill: hello?
INDCBill:
INDCBill: ?
INDCBill: hellooooooooooo?
INDCBill:
INDCBill: jeff?
INDCBill:
INDCBill: I ASKED YOU A GODDAMN QUESTION, FUCKER
proteinwisdom: No.

Posted by Bill at August 15, 2005 03:28 PM | TrackBack (1)

Comments

*snort*

It's asinine. I once worked phone support for a large insurance company. You'd call the 1-800 number to talk about your policy, you'd get me. By the way, thanks to my experience in the customer service field, I no longer fear Hell.

Anyway. We had a fax machine in the office. Any customer who called and wanted a form could have, theoretically, had it in hand in about 3 minutes. However, it was company policy that we NOT fax things to people, unless they were really pissed and we couldn't get them off the phone any other way.

Why? Because getting up to fax things would take us away from the phones for a whole two minutes and possibly take one less call throughout the day. It would also, presumably, lead to an unstoppable flood of customers calling to get their forms quickly. You know, once word got out that we had a fax machine and weren't scared to use it. Thus, productivity would plummet, and the whole company would go down in flames.

Or something.

The point is, making you - the customer - happy is nowhere near the list of priorities. All that matters is that you don't freak out too much and make your service rep. cry, or spend too long bitching her out. It's all about how many calls she can churn through.

Posted by: stacella at August 15, 2005 04:26 PM

However, it was company policy that we NOT fax things to people, unless they were really pissed and we couldn't get them off the phone any other way.

EXACTLY.

And I get transferred to the supervisors before I really cut loose, btw.

Your specifics aside, I'm convinced that this yelling and swearing thing may have fruitful applications in other aspects of my life.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at August 15, 2005 04:28 PM

The main trick with call centers is figuring out whether they're actual employees of the company or outsourced firms, especially offshore. In the latter case, it's pure futility to to use any aggressive techniques such as demanding to speak to a supervisor or berating the representative.

Also keep in mind that many companies domestically outsource call center operations to various prisons for cheap domestic labor. Thanks to the War on Drugs, America has found one way to offer cheap and plentiful labor to compete with cheap overseas labor.

So, you never know, you might find yourself threatening Bubba doing 20 to life on a murder rap in one of our fine correctional facilitities somewhere.

Posted by: kaligula at August 16, 2005 05:10 AM

In the latter case, it's pure futility to to use any aggressive techniques such as demanding to speak to a supervisor or berating the representative.

But it sure is fun, eh? Am I right? Huh? Fun? AmIrightAmIright? Am I right?!

Posted by: Bill from INDC at August 16, 2005 07:39 AM

Y'know, Bill, if I were your mother, I'd make you stop playing with that Protein Wisdom kid. He's starting to rub off on you.

Posted by: alex at August 16, 2005 06:53 PM

Well, once upon a time I worked in a call center for a major Baby Bell, and when they started going bezerk on me, I usually came down with a bad case of machine trouble and dropped the call. Sometimes I'd pretend to drop the call, put them on hold, and chuckle to myself as I listened to them shriek in impotent rage.

But that's just me.

Posted by: Bill Quick at August 17, 2005 03:07 AM

Sadist.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at August 17, 2005 06:55 AM

Most ironical. Cuz like, you yelled at him, and it got a response. I think Scott Adams did a whole series of Dilbert cartoons on this once. It involved Dogbert. Man. That Dogbert. What a cut up!

Posted by: Beck at August 17, 2005 03:38 PM

Holy shit...that's funny!

Posted by: aaronpacy at August 17, 2005 11:22 PM