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August 13, 2005
Meanwhile ...

Posted by Bill

Is it ok to criticize grieving mother Cindy Sheehan?

Jeff Goldstein takes the definitive look.

I say sure it's ok, just make the case civily and well.

Flashback: Similar (but less dramatic) issues cropped up last year with Michael Berg and Sue Niederer's crusades in the name of their slain children.

Posted by Bill at August 13, 2005 04:15 PM | TrackBack (1)

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ya got yer basic leftie pile-on over there in Crawford... the situation is fair game for any whacked out liberal cause/group/committee, you name it. the term "front group" comes to mind, or how the reds grabbed the anti-war movement in the 60's.

whatever the woman had to say, whatever her reasoning, all is invalidated due to the herding instinct of moonbats.

the Kos Kids are already deciding how to make her a more useful useful idiot:

We are making errors with references to Cindy Sheehan.

What are we trying to accomplish with promoting her?

Emphasizing her sacrifice.

Emphasizing her stating truth to power.

Emphasizing her plain speaking, clear statements.

Relate her vigil over her dead son to universal archtypes of all vigils over dead children killed by dictatorial rulers throughout all history.

-followed by eight points, read it here at LGF:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17039_Daily_Kos_Parasites&only

Posted by: Glenn Bowen at August 13, 2005 09:36 PM

Yep I read that and I did a post on it myself and
THEN a post on another family who lost a son In Iraq that of Sheldon Hawk Eagle a decendent of Crazy Horse who was buried with FULL Warrior honors.

I felt the Sheehan situation needs something to balance it.

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan/CommitteesofCorrespondence/index.blog?entry_id=1065634

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at August 14, 2005 11:40 PM

Oh there WERE a few things that I found more disgusting in DailKos than what you have here

I prefer to leave Mrs. Sheehan alone. Grief affects people differently.

Now that said some of the material on DailyKos where it is discussed how best to USE her and her son's death, that is fair game and IMO disgusting.

I posted about it on my blog the few details I found the most sordid were:

"4. We should not use the name of her son" No best not mention Casey Sheehan the man who voluteered for the Army, who re-enlisted who did not want to go AWOL to Canada because it would be betraying his buddies

7. If there are any persons who are theatre professionals at the Sheenan vigil, they should arrange things much more theatrically
"I don't think that needs an extra comment" he says is disgust.

Oh and the best part? You think those who object to Mrs. Sheehans message are the only ones who want to make sure she stops speaking?
8. If I was there, I would not let Mother Sheehan talk to the press, but I would have her talk only through a spokesperson

All of these bright thoughts I found in something called.

Framing Cindy Sheehan - we are making errors


I put the whole thing here

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan/CommitteesofCorrespondence/index.blog?entry_id=1065163

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at August 14, 2005 11:42 PM

Dan:

I prefer to leave Mrs. Sheehan alone. Grief affects people differently.

If you think this is just about grief, you should read some of what Cindy Sheehan has been saying.... Doesn't sound like grief so much as political posturing.

Posted by: Carrick at August 15, 2005 02:24 AM

Balance comes at Chrenkoff's place:

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/08/other-ways-to-grieve.html

Read him and know it is out there....just invisible to and through the MSM!

Duke

Posted by: Duke DeLand at August 15, 2005 11:16 AM

Posted by: Yehudit at August 15, 2005 12:51 PM

I'm fed up with these crusaders. I suspect quite a few of them are grandstanding, hooked on the media attention and having a ball with their lives. But then I'm a certified Big Meanie.

Posted by: cassandra at August 15, 2005 01:30 PM

Yes I liked Chrenkoff article it fit in quite well with something I was working on.
I REALLY liked the father who asked how dared she demand a SECOND meeting with Bush when other parents himself included had yet to have their first meeting.

I said "I prefer to leave Mrs. Sheehan alone. Grief affects people differently"

I stand by it, I also will stand behind a Maureen Dowd quote,"Maureen Dowd: "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."

The Way I see it the Anti-War movement is holding a Queen high hand, had they better cards they would play them.

At Chrenkoff's website? All the parents THERE?

Got to be Ace High Straight Flush ;-)

Which is why the article I put together today, part of which I had laid out before I went to Chrenkof's website is called

An Ace High Straight Flush Beats a Queen High Hand.

http://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan/CommitteesofCorrespondence/index.blog?entry_id=1066201

I let Mrs. Sheehan slide not because she herself deserves respect but because her Son purchased that with his blood. Now if my Mom did something I did NOT agree with I would have taken it up with her, myself while she still lived, YOU got in her face or laid a hand on her while I was around? One of us would be going down no matter what SHE did or said.

Besides if I just pity her and show compassion and abide by the slogan stated by Maureen Dowd AND step back and let whatever parents wish to step forth speak their piece?

I cut the ground right out from under the Anti-War crowd.

Oh and the sweetest part of the Deal? I get to fire back at them with their own ammo. LOL

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at August 15, 2005 08:44 PM

H My GOD! Mrs Sheehan's handlers have NO Idea what is heading towards them or how it is going to hit them
Just read this at Michelle Malkin
Meanwhile, Move America Forward has a new spot from the head of Marine Moms of America. They are also organizing a caravan of military families that will head to Crawford, Tx., to counter the anti-war circus.

No corporate jets for these grass-roots activists.

Can you think of anything more intimidating than a caravan of PO’d Marine Moms?
I mean for one thing they make no attempt to pass themselves off at Pacifists. and DailyKos was crowing about getting a herd of Moms after Bush? THEY are about to have a MMEF (Marine Mom Expeditionary Forces) land on their heads and kick the other end. ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at August 16, 2005 12:38 AM