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The Summers Transcript
Posted by Bill The transcript of Harvard President Larry Summers' controversial comments about gender differences in the hard sciences was released, and Scylla & Charybdis has an analysis: Short subjective version: Summers does not say that men generally have a greater innate science ability that women. Rather, he makes a narrow observation about the statistical data, corrected for differences in a family's economic means and ethnicity, at the VERY HIGH END - e.g., 4 standard deviations about the norm, the edge of the bell curve where high-end specialists reside. Summers states that at such extremes, in certain sciences, men receive those aptitude scores in a 4-to-1 to women. Summers notes that small, insignificant differences between the sexes in the middle of the bell curve, nonetheless become highly pronounced when you run data in the far extremes of the bell curve. Every stat person knows this. Summers suggests that if science institutions continue to use "highest scores" as the key aptitude qualifier for these science jobs (which might not be a good idea, one of the conference themes), then society has locked itself into the decision that this statistical difference in aptitude between the sexes, in the outlier 4x standard deviation area, will render the upper level science corps as lopsidedly male. Have any of those critics calling for Summers' head properly stated Summers' position? As in, actually read the transcript. Of course not. The attack on Summers' eminently reasonable comments seems to be an excellent example of the chilling of honest academic debate by the tired meme of exaggerated political correctness. And Summers deserves at least as much of an academic defense as Ward Churchill, whose incendiary rantings were completely subjective and far more offensive. More on this from Kathleen Parker and Wizbang. Posted by Bill at February 19, 2005 07:54 PM | TrackBack (5) CommentsI have one objection to Kathleen Parker, Wizbank et al, why does Parker refer to tne nag association cows as Womanhood? Women do not object to what Larry Summers said. The nags do. Then the nags object to everything, which why gender feminism is essentially dead. David Posted by: David I was pleased to discover that Summers had released the transcript (although it would have been nice to have it sooner). I thought his remarks were intelligent and perceptive, and really broke very little new ground from the standpoint of studying statistical phenomena. He is saying: Here is what we are observing -- there's no dispute about it -- and here's what statistical science tells us when we observe things like this. He then offers hypotheses that would unquestionably explain what is being observed. He states repeatedly that he hopes either that some of his hypotheses are wrong, or that there are sensible ways to address the phenomena (ways, that is, that wouldn't ruin the very enterprises involved). Professor Hopkins at MIT is a professional rabble-rouser. She must have been running her Xerox machine overtime the weekend after the conference, spinning out inflammatory press releases. If Harvard doesn't back Summers on this flap, it will lose a very capable leader, and it will never again be possible for Harvard to protect legitimate academic debate -- because the forces of suppression will have sealed their victory. Posted by: Voiceguy in LA It is well-established that men have a higher standard deviation in intellectual ability than women and that this plays out at both ends of the Bell Curve; more geniuses, but also more morons. Of course, raising the Bell Curve as a defense is not going to placate the left. Posted by: Pat Curley As Pat said. I thought we’d resolved all this 12 hours after the fuss erupted. Even did a small test (yes, I know, one datum does not prove a theory) with Lynne Keisling, a fantastic economist....there has recently been floated the theory that the ability to understand abstract economic models is similar to the ability to understand maps and topology. One would therefore expect more male than female economists. Lynne is indeed more than 2 standard deviations from the female norm in her ability at spatial relationships. (Her words, not mine). To be honest, I’m not all that sure what the fuss is about. As Summers noted, we’re not all that surprised at the paucity of white 100 m runners, of the similar of black (more specifically, West African genetically) swimmers, West African long distance runners, the high portion of long distance runners who are East African....These things say nothing at all about anything important between the races (or sexes) as variations within the group are vastly higher than variations between groups. But if you want to get to the last 0.05% of any talent in humans, you’re going to find some groups contain more of them than others. Posted by: Tim Worstall Sexist racist! Posted by: Bill from INDC All you need to know about this tempest in a teapot is that no less of a liberal icon than Alan Dershowitz has come to Summers' defense, criticizing the radical leftist professors for their political correctness and cowardice. The world is truly upside down! Posted by: Wave Maker Bill, you forgot xenophobic, culturalist and my current three out of four on Dead White European Male. Posted by: Tim Worstall |