Glad Joyner showed the picture of Janeane Garafolo giving that Nazi salute, I wouldn't have believed it otherwise. Why is it hitlerian to support a previously oppressed people engaging in their first free election? That makes absolutely no sense.

Good question, but I bet she doesn't answer it.

I have gotten to where I tune out anyone who starts in on the whole GOP/Nazi or Bush/Hitler comparisons-they are almost always a massive reach.

"I have gotten to where I tune out anyone who starts in on the whole GOP/Nazi or Bush/Hitler comparisons-they are almost always a massive reach."

Almost always?

As a middle of the road Dem, I am very disheartened regarding an apparent win for Dean. Additionally, I don't identify with Garofalo or many in Hollywood that you could classify as liberal elite.

Perhaps many of us are still shellshocked after the elections (how do you properly deal with the fact that you didn't want Bush to win...but not far behind that wish, you didn't want Kerry to win either? It drains you).

These are bad times indeed for Dems...when I see Gingrich & O'Reilly talking on Fox about how this administration has done a poor job on the environment, and I find myself agreeing with the both of them...well, perhaps there is little hope left for the left.

There's a great article by Ryan Lizza in TNR on how Dean won the DNC chairmanship. Basically the lefty bloggers sabotaged everybody else (especially Roemer). Unfortunately, Lizza missed Kos' takedown of Frost for the commercials where he buddied up to President Bush.

I actually think that Dean will be good for the Democrats in a "you've gotta hit bottom before you give up the bottle" kind of way. The bottom cannot be far off.

On "islamofascism" I think I was one of the first people to write in this vein. Back in 1979, in an article about Khomeini (before the fall of the shah) for the Wall Street Journal, I described him as a classic "theocratic fascism." That term was already in the scholarly literature, I certainly didn't coin it.

And as for Andrew Sullivan's description, it applies to the Nazis but not to the (Italian and other) fascists, who were anything but "medieval." Many of them were hyper-modern, even futurists.