Bill, I don't believe there is a name for the Faction that Flounces Away from Other People's Websites in Moral Outrage. How about the Inexorable Creeps?

"the Inexorable Creeps"

That's funny.

Bill, do you have a little too much time on your hands lately?

No, quite the opposite. Why do you ask?

You may know these groups by their more popular nicknames: the "Malcons" (CRP), and the "Bawitdabadicons" (SCP, CRTSWTSCPBDQSAOTVOAQMOAT).

Heh. Indeed.

Wish you could have worked The Dead Rabbitts into your clever, tongue-in-cheek shot at Instapundit's fence-straddling neutrality. Then I'd know we're both Scorsese fans!

Yeah Bill, I think you're right: this thing is big. This whole Kid Rock thing is splitting "conservatives" into religious wackos on one side and economic/libertarian/lax_government/NRA conservatives on the other. Now I use the phrase "religious wacko" only because I myself happen to be a religious conservative and have taken a sudden dislike to both you and Goldstein. And it's a damn shame too because all humor will be gone from my side of the blogosphere! I don't want to scare people away from voting Republican, but I'm can't forget why I oppose the left either. To me, the left is a bunch of godless pot-smoking Commie hippies who seek vain pleasure while they can get it. We aren't supposed to be emulating that. I always laughed at the left because so many parties were under one tent, but it looks like we have the same problem. Perhaps religious conservatives will split off to make their own party-probably would outnumber both Democrats and Republicans in the end. But in the end, I really do think you should consider the idea that most conservative beliefs stem from Judeo-Christian values, and without that base of morality, what does any freedom loving country have to stand on?

Now I use the phrase "religious wacko" only because I myself happen to be a religious conservative and have taken a sudden dislike to both you and Goldstein.

Sorry to see you are taking this so seriously. Which is exactly my problem with the social conservatives: many can't seem to bend a bit, live and let live, everything has to be your way, or it's wrong. Which is exactly one of the main things I dislike about liberal ideology, come to think of it. Two sides of the same dogmatic coin.

I celebrate tradition in many forms, including patriotism and many judeo-christian values. This does not go hand-in-hand with being an unyielding moral scold that makes mountains out of molehills and can't prioritize the important things.

For example, leftists can't comprehend supporting Bush on anything, including the war on terror, because they might be, for example, too caught up on a single issue like abortion. A feminist might label George Bush the devil for women's rights, not giving a rats ass about women that now get an education in Afghanistan. The strange priorities and inability to contextualize annoy me.

In the same way, conservatives decide to expend energy and outrage on a performer that has a dirt catalogue playing a few songs at a youth concert, thus trying to assert 100% of their will and piss off people that generally agree with them, but have a somewhat higher tolerance for potty language. Give me a break.

Judeo-Christian values are about loving your neighbor and letting people live healthy lives, not about some rocker that once had a tongue-in-cheek, fake persona as a pimp.

If you've taken a "dislike" please, don't read.

What Bill said, meystingray.

I have nothing against religious conservatives -- unless they begin presuming to speak for me. I also think it's simply bad judgment to sweat the small stuff -- like what "message" allowing a youth entertainer to play a Youth party might send to the youth who already listen to him anyway. Seems like posturing to me -- and worse, counterproductive posturing.

Right now, Michael Newdow is engaging in the same silly crap on the left -- trying to get "under God" removed from the Pledge, or trying to get the prayer removed from the inauguration. I look at stunts like that and think, wow, how in the hell can anyone vote for a progressive if this is the kind of thing they think needs juristic attention. And I worry that others will think the same thing about the conservative cause when they see a few self-appointed morality czars presuming to act as policemen to the whole party.

My position has been that I wouldn't have invited KR to the inaugural -- not my taste -- but that I certainly wouldn't turn the whole business into a referendum on morality by disinviting him, either. It turns something that was NOT a political statement INTO a political statement -- and for no reason.

So I'm sorry if you suddenly dislike Bill and me for expressing our opinions. For my part, I value my integrity over another hit on the traffic meter.

I actually like Kid Rock. Does that mean I'm out of the club?

Actually, I like Kid Rock too. So, no ...

okay, can I back up and ask some questions? 'cause I must have misread you about the whole thing. I thought you guys were pretty heavily "Malkin et al have a stick up their butts, and it's a killer for the party's youth draw." was that wrong?

I agree that inviting KR then disinviting him is bad and wrong. but do people expect him to tone it down for the occassion, and is that a realistic expectation? is the guy not the guy Malkin portrays him as with the lyrics she posted? I admit, I don't keep up with this stuff, and if he's changed, then the uproar is overblown.

That was kind of right, but our annoyance is more over the outrage and willingnes to start letter-writing campaigns, etc. Such a dumb thing to pour energy into.

And he has changed, toned down his stuff considerably. He has a cleaner catalogue.

okay, I wasn't thinking so much about the letter-campaign stuff, which is a waste of energy in this case. I write a lot of that silly stuff off to my general philosophy of human goofiness that "at least it keeps them off the streets".

I think I saw (CRTSWTSCPBDQSAOTVOAQMOAT) on this site but it didn't come with a .wav file pronunciation.

You all will come to respect and love the new Neo Pimpertarian Party. Aside from the occasional squabbles we'll be having with our more rigid big tent brothers, our most leathal attacks will be directed at the left. For you see, we are like a giant cursing trojan horse. We embody everthing that the left used to corner the market in. Many of us are ex leftys. And our knowledge of the enemy can be useful. above all, we are Fucking Funny! Me, not so much, but my brothers have got funny coming outa their bachachis!

In the next 10 years, I predict in high school lunchrooms and in college quad areas, it will be less socially painful to be a Republican.

And we will have Neo Pimpertarians to thank for it.

Perhaps religious conservatives will split off to make their own party-probably would outnumber both Democrats and Republicans in the end.

You've GOT to be kidding!

Of course, he's not here to answer, but what a joke.

That's exactly the problem with that faction of the GOP--their willingness to self-immolate just to make a point (examples are numerous, but start with Pat Buchanan).

When are you cannibals going to GET A CLUE and start being a part of a TEAM instead of ensuring fuckups like Klintoon are elected, as you did in '92? Don't you think an EVER-SO-SLIGHTLY milder Republican party is better than the Democratic party and their positions on the issues? Face it, third parties ARE a waste. That's reality, regardless of lofty ideals. And the "message" you think you're sending to the party is frankly, simply a message of "I'm a self-centered moonbat."

[Another question for me is, why do I keep getting sucked into discussions on this?]