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December 06, 2004
E-mail of the Day

Posted by Bill

Once again, INDC Journal changes lives:

I have to say, what I find particularly interesting about your website is that, not long ago, I myself was a moonbat. My wonderful husband, (a right wing gun nut), has been working on me for the past twenty years to change my political views, but it wasn't until I independently started reading well-reasoned anti-moonbat literature on blogs like yours that I finally started to see the light. Your blog was actually the one that did the turning, which is why I gave a(too small!) donation a while back.

What's really funny is that I used to work for the Soviets on Soviet trawlers as a Russian translator during the height of the Cold War. I saw my friends under threat of being hauled off and being sent to the camps if they said the wrong thing in said of the political commissar. I KNOW the threat of totalitarian governments, whether they be communist, fascist, or islamist. Why did it take so long for me to open my eyes to the blindness of those who think that "making nicie nice" is the only way to deal with those who, because of their hate-filled upbringing, want to kill us?

Incidentally, we have two adopted sons from Kosovo who are Muslim. I have the greatest respect for Muslims. Islamo-fascists, on the other hand....

It's hard working here at a university--a bastion of moonbat-dom--and seeing how the kids are constantly fed a line of inaccurate left wing propaganda. It's even harder because in my classes I try to play fair and not bring up politics (out of place anyway in engineering), but other professors apparently don't play by the same rules.

Anyway, sorry for the long ramble. Thanks again for your wonderful website--please keep doing those wondeful photo-essays. Pictures truly are worth a thousand words!

One moonbat conversion at a time. It's possible.

And to be honest, combating moonbat propaganda was one of my main reasons for starting and continuing this blog. Boy, I love those e-mails.

Posted by Bill at December 6, 2004 11:39 AM | TrackBack (4)

Comments

Persistence and patience. That's all it takes, persistence and patience.

I don't understand one (mostly irrelevant) part of the quote, though. "I used to work for the Soviets on Soviet trawlers as a Russian translator..." I can't for the life of me figure out why a Soviet trawler needed a Russian translator.

I guess I'm just being dense.

Posted by: Boyd [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:23 PM

An English-Russian translator, I guess. To do business?

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:33 PM

You made that up for votes. Hmmmph. ;-)

Posted by: Beth the VRW Conspirator [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:37 PM

Boyd sez: "I can't for the life of me figure out why a Soviet trawler needed a Russian translator."

Cause Soviet Trawlers were typcially used off the East Coast of the U.S. to conduct spying ops. They would need someone to translate intercepted messages from English into Russian. :)

On the NON-moonbat front, I'm pleased to report that DC Cruisers over in infamous Monkey County, MD had a very nice party on Saturday and was able to collect 4 large boxes full of donations for the Wounded Warrior Foundation. The only downer was bike builder Paul Yaffe not showing up, but what the heck, there were some very nice bikes on display there anyway.

Cheers-
Bucky Katt

Posted by: Bucky Katt [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:50 PM

You made that up for votes.

Nope. I didn't make up the whole Dan Rather resigning thing, either. :-)

Posted by: Bill from INDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:50 PM

I'm the one who wrote Bill the e-mail this morning about converting from Moonbat-dom. Sorry, it was a little complicated to explain in the brief e-mail. In the 1980s, there was a Soviet-American joint fishing venture--Marine Resources Company, based out of Seattle. Within this company, the Americans caught cheap pelagic fish like hake with their small catcher boats, then passed it off at sea for the Soviets to process in their large at sea trawler/fish processing vessels. (Americans did not have those types of vessels at the time. The joint venture arose because in the late 1970s most countries world wide expanded their maritime boundaries from 3 to 200 miles off shore. There's a lot more to it than that, but I'll leave it be.) Anyway, the Americans needed an American on board the Soviet trawlers to translate during fish transfers--Russians weren't trusted for the job. That's why I was a Russian translater on board Soviet trawlers....

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 12:53 PM

Barbo -
Ya gavareetyeh Pa-rooskie. "Gdyeh Pooshkinska ooolitsah!" That's about it. ;)

How does one say "moonbat" in Russian?

Posted by: SarahW [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 01:55 PM

Hmm, Sarah. About as close as one can come to "moonbat" in Russian is "lunnaya letuchaya meesh," which, given the context, is best back-translated as "lunar flying mouse."

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 02:51 PM

Wow, being a translator on a Russian fishing vessel... to a landlubber who speaks only English, Redneck, and a smidgeon of Spanglish, that's impressive. So is teaching engineering.

Posted by: Donna [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 03:41 PM

My god, she is Susan. Based out of Seattle and everything. Was she the only American girl on board? Flirting with the possibility of a relationship with the former Muscovite investigator?

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 04:31 PM

Hi Ninme--I was Barb on the Mramorny & Izumrudny, '81-'82 and '82-'83 fishing seasons. It's described in the book "Hair of the Dog: Tales from aboard a Russian Trawler."

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 06:35 PM

Ooh, I found it on Amazon. Are you *the* Barbara A Oakley?

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 07:25 PM

LOL--yeah, I'm *the* Barbara A Oakley. Curses...foiled again.

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 07:55 PM

Why curses? You should be thrilled to have people shilling for you. (Unless you're undercover, infiltrating the conservative blog world and... never mind.)

Have you ever read Polar Star? If you didn't get it, that what I was referring to with the whole Susan thing...

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 08:20 PM

I knew about the Polar Star, but never read it, although I've read some other works by Martin Cruz Smith. Polar Star came out when I was writing the manuscript of my book, and I didn't want to be influenced by someone else's vision.
Now now now, I thought only moonbats were paranoid.... :)

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 08:43 PM

How can you tell I grew up in the late Cold War?

When Barb said 'trawler', I immediately assumed that it was a spy ship. :)

The whole bit about actually fishing caught me completely by surprise.

Posted by: Noah D [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 10:22 PM

Out on the trawlers we used to refer to THOSE kind of boats as "research vessels." As in "Gee, look how many antennas there are on that research vessel."

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 10:32 PM

Hey, way better than those you were thinking of last week? Congrats!

Posted by: kathianne [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 6, 2004 11:28 PM

Glad I’m not the only one who got the Polar Star reference. I absolutely devoured those four Arkady Renko books as they came out....by the time Red Square was published I was living about 50 metres from "treitsit voceim Petrovka" (Sorry, I’m not very good at the transliteration from cyrillic). For those who haven’t read them, that’s where his office was, in the main Militia office in Moscow.
Also where I read Gulag Archipelago for the first time....while stuck in the apartment during a coup attempt. Slightly bizzare that experience.

Posted by: Tim Worstall [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 7, 2004 04:57 AM

It's a super good book, Polar Star. Terribly interesting too. You should read it now that you've written your book and had a few years to let all the memories equalize in the back of your mind, see what you think. For those of us too young to live a life full of excitement on a Soviet Trawler or lived a few blocks away from the Coup when the Soviet Union crumbled, it's a good way to, ah, catch up.

It includes, by the way, the Gee, look how many antennas thing. Isn't it nice when you do use novels to catch up and find out they're actually largely based on truth. (And look at me, reading the same books as grownups who've lived exciting lives!)

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 7, 2004 02:45 PM

I just ordered Polar Star on Amazon. I've been meaning to do it for years, but I was on the tenure track and awfully busy for quite a while. I've got tenure now, though, so I can afford the luxury of reading for fun again. Yippee! So thanks for the push.
I can't tell you how many times I've known some oddball factoid just because of some book I read when I was younger. Sometimes I think it's easier to pick up facts in well written fiction, particular historical fiction and, suprisingly, science fiction, than anything else. My students are usually impressed during introductions, because whatever they're interested in, I seem to know something about it. It's just that youthful reading. Oh, and ummm....I read the National Enquirer...

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 7, 2004 06:33 PM

I agree completely! I think that's why I never read books by American authors, unless they're military/spy/Arkady Renkoish in nature. Except for romance novels (ahh, brain candy.), I have absolutely *no* interest in most Oprah reading list sorts of books about relationships, love and betrayal and all that, unless a) someone's getting killed, then it's a murder mystery, then it's fun, or b) it takes place in a different country or time so at least I'll learn something new about it. And to this day, the only competitive game I've ever been truly good at is trivial pursuit. I rock trivial pursuit.

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 7, 2004 07:03 PM

Hmm, I'll bet ability at Trivial Pursuit is a mark of a good blogger. I checked your blog out and it's quite interesting. But I always like to read about the background of the blogger--who they are and why they're doing what they're doing(it's that National Enquirer part of my psyche) Couldn't find anything on your website. Can't find anything on INDC Bill's website either :( Maybe I'm just blind...

Posted by: BarbO [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 8, 2004 08:34 AM

Yeah...That's cuz we're both CIA operatives infiltrating the conservative underground blog movement.

(I wish. I'd probably be a lot more solvent were that the case.)

No, actually, it's mostly cuz it's new, or at least, new again (there was an earlier incarnation, but I didn't like it, and ditched it), so I didn't want to include too much about myself until I'd sort of relaxed into a system. So. I appreciate comments there, though. Hate to be controversial without knowing if I am. Or the opposite.

Posted by: ninme [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 8, 2004 05:15 PM

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