Ditto; he does have class, & dignity.

Better to call up the fat lady to sing, rather than become the fat lady as did Al Gore.

Good, the last thing we need is for this one to be drug out for weeks in litigation.

I have heard he will give consession speech at one and Bush will speak about 3ish.

Bill (and others in predictably blue states), even though DC had no chance in hell of going to Bush, that doesn’t mean your Bush vote had no impact.

I suspect that the relatively large edge Bush pulled in the popular vote had an impact on Kerry’s decision to concede so quickly.

This is making some journalists look quite foolish. Check out this ditty from the Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002080605_danny03m.html

"Once again this year, we had trouble definitively choosing a president."

51% of the popular vote and it's not definitive? You can't please some people, I tell ya.

Dan Rather has Kerry with 317 Electorial Votes.

Phew! :)

This time he did the right thing for the country, and not himself.

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!!!

It's 8:30 AM, Kerry has conceded, Bush has 51% of the popular vote and at least 274 electoral college votes.

ABC is running a story with a subtitle that reads:

"Victory?"

The question mark is THEIRS.

Unbelievable

I'm glad he did the right thing for America. Now how do we stop being divided? Maybe people need to ask themselves why 58 million voted for Bush (hint - it's not cause we're all stupid).

I'll believe this is over when & if Kerry's concession speech includes a directive to the DNC attorneys in Ohio to stop their activities. Absent that, it's not a concession.

I'll add a thank you to Senator Kerry for a gracious end. He has the good sense to say 'Enough' when appropriate.

I'm not feeling so generous toward the MSM, however. They're idiots.

Rather, Halperin, et al may be partisan snipers, but the bottom line at MSM is making money. I predict it won't be long before we see things changing as the MSM continues to bleed viewership.

Please be kind and patient with your liberal friends and coworkers for a while. Some of us will be walking around in shock and denial for a week or two. :)

Thanks,

Rick Taylor

I wonder whether he will actually try to gain politically out of this.

However, I have a feeling he may also RESIGN his Senate seat to allow an election rather than continuing on in the Senate.

Like Gore he is now insignificant, irrelevant, and the Country has spoken. The Democratic party better let the moderates take over or they will continue down their long slow decline to where they will no longer exist as a party.

There was a strong message sent last night, and that message is that The United States of America is coming back home to its values, its conservative views, and will now make a difference.

So what's up for the next four years.

1) Three new Supreme Court Justices.
2) Roe V Wade overturned and abortion reverts to states.
3) Social Security addressed
4) Health care reforms
5) Terrorists retreat to their caves and are hunted down and eliminated.
6) France remains insignificant.
7) Violence in Iraq goes down, and is stabilized.

I have more, but those are in my thoughts right now.

One other interesting thought. The dems were SCREAMING about the vote being about Iraq, etc....

Well, now there is NO MENTION of Iraq by any of the dem pundits this morning. Now it WAS all about conservative values, religious right issues, etc....

Haaaaaaaaaaaa.......

Looks like to me, the Country is fine with Iraq, and this Presidents performance.

The People have spoken, the lame stream press is insignificant, and proved again, their exit polls were CRAP designed to keep voters form going to the polls.

And the youth vote, you know, crack the vote, didn't materialize because they were all at home recovering from hangovers and highs form the Springsteen concerts.

Oddly enough, I guess the dems are in mourning this morning, most likely figuring out if "Heavans Gate" has a membership drive coming up or not.

Today is a Great day for my Country, The United States of America.

My faith is confirmed yet again.

Best Regards,
Sonar5

Whew!!!!

Guess what Sonar -

1) Three new Supreme Court Justices.
2) Roe V Wade overturned and abortion reverts to states.

You and I will have something to fight over.

Just don't be shocked when I turn on you and you realize that this isn't a "conservative" blog.

This is the first time I have voted straight ticket R since 1984. My biggest fear now is that the religious right will try to exert more power within the party as pay back for getting out the vote. I have felt all along that Bush has for the most part, been paying them not much more than lip service over the last four years . Ok, call it pandering if you like. It’s a block that absolutely should be heard, and the Republican party needs those votes to have a chance of winning. But the party also needs the more moderate and libertarian type votes (like me). Playing with RvW, or pressing the decency/morals nanny type issues could be the worst thing the Republicans could do after this victory, IMHO

jmaster - hey, he can start by stop pandering to every AARP member with idiotic prescription drug plans...

besides, if he does, that just means that Guiliani will be the nominee in '08...

bill,

I never stated it was a Conservative Blog Bill.

I urge you to find where I said so.

I am posting my opinions, and really don't care if they differ from yours or not, as they are my opinions, not yours.

I am not surpised by anything extremists who have killed or supported the killing of over 35+ Million children are capable of.

As for turning on me, I really don't care if you or anyone else agrees with me.

I am just expressing MY VIEWS, not yours, and my belief that life is a fundamental right for all children who are innocent.

But hey what's 35+ Million dead children, huh?

And I welcome your little challenge of fighting over the saving of lives.

Me, I favor Life.

And pro killing extremist child killer supporters favor death.

But hey, I am consistent. I am against abortion and the death penalty. How many that support abortion can say the same.

Someone that has committed murder gets a hearing and appeals process, and should get life in prison, no parole.

An innocent child gets no choice. I feel that child should be able to live to an age that he/she can fight for their right to LIVE.

A life is a wonderful thing, and I'm sure all these child killers are somehwat happy their own mothers didn't abort even them.

So with that.... BRING IT ON...

Regards,
Sonar5

Oh yeah.

Jeb in '08.

Regards,
Sonar5

Sonar: You might feel more comfortable spending the next four years over at the Unaborted Atheist. Except you'll have to love homosexuals, hate God, and drop that silly opinion/your opinion relativism. Or I'll give you back to Bill.

Well, I'll take my view, thank you.

And I was pretty close in calling this on Monday as well. I only missed Wisconsin, and I underestimated the NEW CONSERVATIVE majority in the senate by two.

And Daschle is gone too, such a Bonus.
And Edwards is gone, bonus..
And kerry can go back to his windsurfing and being Senator Truant in the Senate.

Regards,
Sonar5

Redaction. I was wrong. If it stands now, I missed Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Has CBS conceded the election yet?

Don't know, but Dan rather I'm sure like the rest of the extremist PROGRESSIVE liberals are now officially...

"DEEPLY SADDENED"

I don't really see Roe v Wade being overturned, even if Bush appoints three new judges just like Clarence (which I actually hope he does).

I like strict constructionists, who don't believe in that living breathing document BS.

I think Kerry did a good job on the speech, for the first time, he actually appeared human to me, when he almost broke down and cried.

I thought Edwards looked foolish though-almost embarrassingly so.

After seeing the breck Girl's hair video, maybe after he is tossed out of the new Senator's Seat in January, he will star in his own reality TV series.

"How's My Hair?" to be aired of course on CBS....

Regards,
Sonar5

It's not like Kerry's disqualified himself in the event the Ohio count eventually turns out in his favor. It was kind of a 'nothing to lose' thing.

Sonar -

I never said that you said this was a conservative site, but the way you spout off like a jackass leads one to believe that you must be under the assumption that the site that you're commenting so frequently on agrees with your unequivocal views.

I respect pro-life views, have had many intelligent debates on abortion, respect pro-life writers, but I really think that you can take your rhetoric ...

And pro killing extremist child killer supporters favor death.

I am not surpised by anything extremists who have killed or supported the killing of over 35+ Million children are capable of.

... somewhere else. I've tolerated your bombast about everything else, but you're just not my kind of commenter, even when you agree with me, sorry. It's countreproductive to honest discussion, in almost every case.

You're almost exactly like the arrogant, angry lefties over at the Democratic Underground and the Daily Kos. Same rhetoric and style, different ideology.

Move on.

The amusing thing is that Pennsylvania is actually closer than Ohio at the moment (with 100% counted, excepting provisionals etc.).

Haven't heard 'boo' about recounts or contests there. Not since the initial results were something like 20% pro-Kerry -> called almost immediately. Then the results essentially froze until late, late, late. Wild.

http://network.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/election_night_2004/us_map/index.html?SITE=NYMEL&SECTION=POLITICS

Mouseover both Ohio and PA.

Well, what can I say? I sure was wrong about this one. Though I'm not happy about the outcome, I am somewhat consoled by the fact that now GWB has to deal with the problems that have arisen under his administration. However, the majority have spoken and despite "moral values" or whatever I think that the WOT and the viewpoint often expressed here by Bill and others prevailed. I hope it works out. I hope that Bush's approach to the WOT shows the kinds of results it is supposed to, and though I can't say I agree with it, it is aggressive (which is good) and Bush has stood firm and I think people responded to that. Anyway we will find out, and at the end of these eight years we will have a much better picture of what the Republican agenda has borne out and the responsibility will be unequivocally theirs, whether they should receive praise or blame. It should be an interesting experiment, as we have not seen such single party control as this since, when? Roosevelt? For the country's sake and the world's I hope things go well, regardless of my own personal beliefs.

That being said, let me respond to Sonar5, who is clearly geared up for a gloat-fest.

Looks like to me, the Country is fine with Iraq,

Right, everyone thinks things are going great there. This election does not immediately validate every action the president has taken, it just means they don't think Kerry will do any better. There are serious doubts in the country about the president's performance, but I guess they don't count, right?

And the youth vote, you know, crack the vote, didn't materialize because they were all at home recovering from hangovers and highs form the Springsteen concerts.

Well, actually you'll find that the youth vote did increase, it just didn't do so any more than the general population did. And do you honestly believe young people are big Springsteen fans? How old are you?

Oddly enough, I guess the dems are in mourning this morning

Why is that odd? They lost pretty handily in both chambers of Congress and the White House. Do you think they should be happy? I understand you are quite pleased and think that that is contagious or something, but the fact that he won the election doesn't automatically make everyone like him. Anyway, I like your list. I'll be interested to see how it squares with reality in four years.

Mantis, I was wrong as well. I didn't see such a decisive victory, but then again not many did. I'm interested in how the next 4 years plays out -- I'm holding on for the ride. I'm concerned about the huge imbalance as well. It's worriesome to me.

Bill: I know I sounded like a pissed off dick the other day. Sorry.

The Washington, D.C. Republican Committee must be going on record today as the smallest victory party ever. Kerry absorbed a whopping 90% of the votes in the District. Bush took 71% of Utah as his biggest win, but still - 90%. I guess it's all logical when looked at in the context of 2 critical words:

Marion Berry

bill,

You can claim to respect pro life views all you want.

Your response to me proves otherwise, though. Thanks for falling for that one. Well done. You are hypocritical on that point at least.

I respect NO PRO KILLING ABORTIONIST views, since they are simply wrong on a human scale. I am consistent and not afraid of stating my disdain for those who support the killing of children. It's human Life, bill.

And like I said. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks, I am my own person, and don't cave or kiss backsides like others do.

The President's speech was basically a warning, IMHO for the dems to clean house, and come back towards the middle, because there is now a mandate in all senses.

A Huge controlling majority in the Senate, House, Governorships, and I also can't wait for Ashcroft to submit his resignation, and appoint someone else to that post.

kerry, edwards, france, moore, and their ILK that agree with them are now proven to be INSIGNIFICANT. I hope they do leave the country, but they were lying and won't.

And if people can't deal with those facts, I don't care about that either.

I put my support and my money where I believe they will do the most good, and I support MY views of opinions and no one elses, unless as a means they help my goals be achieved.

Yesterday's vote was another step in that direction, and I participated in that process.

Those that support the killing of children are not as bad as those who do the killing like the mothers and doctors, but they are part of that ilk that would rather see children killed than have compassion for those same children.

As for you, you are afraid of real discourse from me on abortion and it shows.

You said "don't be shocked". Nothing the children killing supporters do shocks me, least of all you stating I am not welcome here.

And I and my conservative agenda will move on in this country, because that is the will of the majority of people, and the people have spoken.

You can attempt to lump me in with others, but I have my integrity, I deal with facts, and logic, and frankly don't mind when others disagree with me.

Regards,
Sonar5

Sonar5:

Dude, you should start one of those "weblog" things

anon,

There were plenty that saw this coming and said so in a previous thread.

Acknowledge those that they were right, but you shouldn't claim not many, because where I hang out it was pretty consistent that many shared waht I and others were saying all along.

The fact that we were pretty close to calling this, and more close than any of the stupid, moronic suppress the vote pollsters were, says that IMHO, I was right, they were only in it for the moeny and profit of their polls.

Even zogby thinks he was right within his margin of error..

Please....

And yes, follow my list and see where we are in 2008.

Jeb in '08, that is my prediction right now, and if hillary runs it won't even be close...

And kudos for admitting you were wrong. Not many can do that. You should be commended for doing so.

Regards,
Sonar5

And I and my conservative agenda will move on in this country, because that is the will of the majority of people, and the people have spoken.

2/3 of the people - that's the majority - support abortion rights in the first trimester. 70% oppose late-term abortion. This is the will of the majority. It's a serious issue that needs rational discourse from both sides, not your hyperbolic screaming that labels 2/3 of your fellow Americans as murderers.

Your tone and arrogance are exactly what turns centrists away from the Republican Party. You learn absolutely nothing from the loss of the Democrats, and you fail to grasp that your attitude would cause the center to turn and devour the right if your dreams and rhetoric were to achieve total dominance.

Now get lost before I have to boot you, you arrogant, annoying wind-bag.

"It's human Life"

Sonar5: With such a righteous disdain for those who perform abortions, you should be quite disdainful of war. Are you? Personally, I believe we should be more concerned about those who are already walking the earth, and not the potential lives. I'm not anti-war, nor am I anti-abortion. It's hypocritical to take such an extreme stance on abortion and not take an extreme stance on war. Afterall, it's human life, Sonar5.

My apologies for the other day, Anonymous Scientist -

You just made a great point about absolutes.

I still think you need to butch up, though. :-)

While I can appreciate his concession, please consider the options...

Yes. He could have dragged this out, adding more suffering in the process. But, where would that have left him? He is vain enough man to recognize the parallels that would be drawn between himself and Al Gore. Clearly, he could not stand for such an outcome, afterall, he must now return to Mass. having lost to the chimp. If he were truly gracious, he would also have neutered his bunny-boy. Instead, he came out with the good cop/bad cop routine, and...of course...he chose the role of good cop.

Let's not pretend that one speech, rendered in clear defeat, erases any of the dirty tricks perpretrated by him or his kind.

Sonar5, you are acting exactly like Moore & company. You are expressing an opinion, but stating it as a fact. And instead of supporting your opinion with logical argument and evidence, you spew vitriol and call names.

Take a deep breath, and look in the mirror.

Hey Sonarse,

and I support MY views of opinions and no one elses, unless as a means they help my goals be achieved.

Ends justify the means, eh? That I believe is the rationale of prolifers who bomb clinics. You aren't tinkering around in the garage are you?

Nice classy speech from Kerry, but I'll be glad never to see or hear from T Heinz for the rest of my life.

Democrats: Not as close as I thought, although on my own blog I predicted the exact outcome in the EC, but a good, fair fight at that. I hope this defeat sparks a fire under your party to burn those that have so greatly damaged its image; Michael Moore, Al Fraken et al. Its high time you guys realize that your vision and ideals are not shared across a swath of America, your failed attempts to make up any ground should send some heads rolling. Hopefully you guys can put up a better fight in 2006. Until then, nothing but the best.

Cheers.

Even if two-thirds of the population supports elective abortion up through the first trimester, Roe v Wade doesn't reflect that view. Rather, Roe v Wade permits abortion for any reason up through the end of the second trimester -- and for virtually any reason up through birth. Additionally, Roe v Wade forbids the states to alter this scheme to reflect the majority will that the restrictions should be imposed a trimester earlier. So the decision has nothing to do with democracy; it was simply a judicial declaration that life begins (sort of) at six months.

I think that a viewing of Team America is in order tonight for a perfect end to a perfect day.

Four more beers!

Whew! Nice concession. If he'd of had more of that heart during his campaign, the numbers might be a bit different.

On another note, does this mean we get more Moonbat reports, Bill? On account of all this excitement being over with and all?

Raving atheist -

Even if two-thirds of the population supports elective abortion up through the first trimester, Roe v Wade doesn't reflect that view.

Did I mention Roe v Wade?

I'm not gonna get into this topic on this thread, I just didn't like his rhetoric, on a variety of subjects.

On another note, does this mean we get more Moonbat reports, Bill? On account of all this excitement being over with and all?

Oh yes ... oh yes. Besides all the material I have in the hopper, they're just getting starting with their retaliatory anger. I believe there's another protest this weekend ...

I just didn't like his rhetoric, on a variety of subjects.

That's why I was trying to lure him over to my blog.