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October 30, 2004
Brokaw Complains About Bloggers ... Again

Posted by Bill

First Tom Brokaw deployed the word "jihad" to describe the efforts of the bloggers that took down CBS's phoney documents.

Now he's said this:

In an interview last week Mr. Brokaw said CBS News had clearly made mistakes. But, he said, "I think there were people just lying in the Internet bushes, waiting to strike, and I think that particular episode gave them a big opportunity."

My response? You're exactly right, Mr. Brokaw.

Now take it a step further and ask yourself: what motivated those people to lie "in the Internet bushes" and devote so much time to disproving those documents, even though most bloggers juggle day jobs and receive no compensation or direction from any political party?

Drop me a line and we'll talk about it reasonably some time. Seriously.

(Via Malkin)

Posted by Bill at October 30, 2004 10:28 AM | TrackBack (1)

Comments

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Posted by: mshyde at October 30, 2004 10:58 AM

Brokaw: "Whah, it's too hot here in the kitchen."

Posted by: Retread at October 30, 2004 11:19 AM

I noticed in the NYT article the complants that they reported about the Times were from the left in that they were too easy on Bush. It looks like a little effort to cover the track as to how the opposite is more like it.

Posted by: Mugford at October 30, 2004 11:25 AM

Are we now junglehadeen?

Posted by: Jane at October 30, 2004 11:36 AM

We do it because we are evil fascists with a hidden agenda to destroy the 1st amendment and destroy democracy and freedom wherever we can.

Come on Bill. Isn't it time we just admit it? I say we put it on the agenda for our next meeting with Reynolds, Malkin, Catalano, Hinderocker, et. al. It's time we reveal our full evil to the world, isn't it?

Posted by: Dean Esmay at October 30, 2004 11:37 AM

dang, i like being evil especially if the people Mr. Brokaw approve of are the good ones. . .

Posted by: jcrue at October 30, 2004 11:47 AM

Long live blogging! Blogging is merely a modern form of the one page circulars which were published before the revolution. Had that dissemination of information not taken place, I doubt the atrocities of the British King then would have been known to the people. Blogging is the be-all-and-end-all of media right now, because we are the only release-valve for truth hidden within the walls of the editor's office and cutting floors of "big media."

Posted by: Jim Pfaff at October 30, 2004 11:47 AM

2004 will forever be known as the beginning of the pajamasniper reign of terror.

Posted by: John Irving at October 30, 2004 11:53 AM

Brokaw sounds like a buggy whip maker after he saw his first automobile.

Posted by: perfectsense at October 30, 2004 12:19 PM

No wonder he's retiring soon - this from an anchor who's definition of high-tech is a "film strip" projector.

Posted by: Eric at October 30, 2004 12:30 PM

I think there were people just lying in the Internet bushes, waiting to strike, and I think that particular episode gave them a big opportunity.

How come bloggers never talk about their commenters like that? Occasionally you'll call someone you disagree with a "troll," but criticism and discussion are just part of the game.

I'd love to see how Brokaw would react if the networks were required to provide a "comment" section on their newscasts -- say, ten minutes of uncensored on-air blogger response time following each broadcast.

Posted by: The Raving Atheist at October 30, 2004 12:42 PM

He's whining about people out there who'll catch his mistakes and out his tricks. Me heart faire bleeds for the lad, indeed.

Would it be too simpleminded to suggest that you FACT CHECK YOUR STORIES??? In the MemoGate case, Rather should have had a bank of experts all willing to go on camera and nod their heads up and down when he asked if the documents were real. Otherwise he shouldn't have run it, it was that explosive.

The Internet doesn't allow the MSM to be sloppy. That's a fact of life and they'd better get used to it.

Posted by: Orion at October 30, 2004 12:46 PM

Consider the internet a quality control sphere for accuracy in media. Those who depended on inaccuracies to further their world view are threatened. The truth would hardly achieve their ends. In the words of the Gipper: "Mr. Brokaw, tear down this wall!"

Posted by: Kathy at October 30, 2004 01:00 PM

Not to go off topic, but has anyone seen this yet?

www.wafflehousesong.com

Posted by: Kate at October 30, 2004 01:03 PM

It's good to be the king. Piss boy!

Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer at October 30, 2004 01:22 PM

Tom Brokaw and his other 2 msm counterparts have knighted themselves as the purveyors of truth and everyone else is 'waiting in the bushes'.

They want you to forget the fact that forged military documents is a felony. They want you to forget the fact that Dan Rather tried to discredit a sitting president with forged documents.

They hold all to high standards but themselves. They can lie, distort, present Propaganda day in and day out and they want no one to question them or hold them to high standards.

Well, Mr Brokaw I do belive Dan knew what he was doing. Only those with room temperature iq's would believe otherwise, in my opinion.

The MSM is nothing more than a Propagaganda tool for the Democrat party.

Tom you and your counterparts ceased to function long ago as 'credible'.

Posted by: rwbusa at October 30, 2004 01:47 PM

- I hadn't seen Brokaw in years...He's sunken into a mean old fart, way past his time in a world he doen't understand....Edward R. Morrow must be spinning in his grave watching the demise of the dinosaur-age oldgaurd newsman of the MSM... whats sure as the Sun coming up there is no way they can avoid whats already here...This election has focused and defined the "new age" of journalism standards and all that remains is a shaking out of the lint....

Posted by: Hunter at October 30, 2004 02:05 PM

Braaaaa-ing-kaw and the rest of the MSM should only have the fortitude to once tell the truth, then there would be no need for embarassment--besides if they want to prove their fair and balanced reporting--why have we not heard of Kerry's ties to communism, less than honorable discharge, lying about the medals received and then taken away and how they were restored in 1985-hmmm all 5 on one day, how he plagiarized, DID NOT release ALL of his Navy files (Needs to authorize with Form 180), No medical files released,(heard he might have PARASOMNIA(sleepwalking/nightmares), FBI files-huge files on him, Illegal campaign funds tied to Iran----more being discovered daily-----do we hear this on mainstream. Newsmax, World Net Daily and NY Sun have been reporting it. WHERE'S THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA??????? Trying to save Kerry's a$$!

Posted by: Fay at October 30, 2004 02:19 PM

Sounds like somebody is whining, because somebody actually has decided to hold him and others in the MSM accountable for the stuff they put on the air.

Maybe if they tried harder in the fact checking department they would do better, but that might entail actually having to spin the story in the direction that doesn't suit their bias.

Posted by: Just Me at October 30, 2004 02:41 PM

The hurt that Mr. Brokaw feels is the realization that from now on he and his fellow anchors will not get a pass on shoddy journalism. For years, they knew where the criticism would come from, the few consrvative columnists and commentators who could be contained. The three network anchors, the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times could keep any story from getting legs.

But now there is a back channel of hundreds of thousands of folks who do not accept confidentially sourced political hit jobs with no documentation, other than "trust us". These new folks are not what the MSM have cloaked conservatives as. They are not high school dropout rednecks, they are not religeous freaks. They are professionals, lawyers, bank VPs, law school instructors and a cross section of literate America. They are politically aware folks who have chafed so long under the yoke of a biased and unrepentant media that shows no shame.

Yes we had a chance to rebel. This time it wasn't a dry factual recitation of percentages of stories favoring Democrats or slamming Republicans. This time it was a story designed to smear a sitting Republican President, using fabricated documents, "unimpeachable sources" (a single emotionally disturbed, highly partisan individual who had been discredited earlier by a number of news organizations). Their continuous chain of custody for the documents turned out to be a lie, and they never contacted this source to verify the story. And they stonewalled for almost two weeks hoping the story would go away. Of course we jumped on it, why shouln't we?

It hurts him that the Rather story gave legitamacy to the conservative blogs. It hurts him that editors, reporters and broadcast journalists are now checking them. But what hurts Mr. Brokaw most is that he and others can no longer get away with poor journalism.

Crosby Boyd
Sanibel FL

Posted by: Corky Boyd at October 30, 2004 03:02 PM

I've got a little bit more new for Mr. Brokaw. We weren't just sitting "in the internet bushes" waiting THEN ... we're STILL IN the internet bushes, waiting for him and Dan and Peter and the rest of the biased media to show their true colors again.

And we'll be there again and again and again, until nobody believes anything that ever comes out of their mouths.

Posted by: slim at October 30, 2004 03:03 PM

Brokaw is scared witless. He actually has to make sure that his crap is factually acurate now. Something he has NEVER had to do before, nor did he care to do so.

Posted by: Jim at October 30, 2004 03:14 PM

Tom Brokaw: Most. Pompous. Human. Ever.

At least Dan Rather has a sort of whack-job, wild-eyed, paranoid, quirky charm, and makes little effort to obfuscate his obvious biases. And at least Jennings gives off a sort of I-don't-give-a-damn-if-you-don't-like-my-quasi-european-snobbish-elitism air. But Brokaw. Boy, oh boy is there some serious pomposity trapped inside that craggy-jawed All-American mug. Can't retire soon enough in my opinion.

Posted by: Rocky at October 30, 2004 03:48 PM

One of the posters above said that the nets should correct their "mistakes" so we wouldn't have to lay in the bushes to catch them.

If it were just mistakes we were lying in the bushes to get, then it would be underhanded. We're not talking about mistakes, we're talking about deliberate misrepresentations, fabrications, forgeries, lies and the fantasies of deranged minds like Moore and Osama.

I hope you are all more optimistic than I. For the first time in my life (I'm 70) I can't sleep for worrying about Kerry and his wife in the White House. She'll empty state secrets into the pockets of MOVE-ON and A.N.S.W.E.R. It's not just another dumb dem who we can kick out in four years. This time we won't get another chance.

It's now or never for our way of life.

Posted by: erp at October 30, 2004 04:25 PM

Within a few years, there will no more nightly news shows on the three arthritic networks. News will be cable, internet, and newspaper based, all three interacting on a 24-hour basis. The cable news will come to resemble the blog environment, rather than vice versa -- real time interactive news, feedback, and analysis. Those cable networks that can escape predictable structure, and move quickly and flexibly with evolving stories, will thrive, and those (like CNN) that cling to past formulas or to ideology will die.

Brokaw is already a fossil. He's a representative of "command and control" news, a structure that has collapsed by its own weight and irrelevancy. He's impossibly outdated. As soon as he's gone, he will be forgotten.

His slight consciousness of these facts provokes his periodic outbursts of anger and resentment.

Posted by: MD at October 30, 2004 04:30 PM

One fundamental idea running through all of the MSM takes on bloggers is this fundamental idea of a conspiracy theorist: that _everything_, particularly everything political, must be driven by control hierarchies, and that anything that affects them must be driven in a top-down manner. Maybe this is because of reporters' desire for "stories" and the need to "get to the bottom" (ie, find The Hierarch), but they just can't seem to wrap their brains around the idea that the Web is a "web" and not a hierarchy...

Posted by: Foobarista at October 30, 2004 04:38 PM

As a Pajamastani-Canadian I find Brokaw's association of the word "jihad" with my culture to be offensive stereotyping that only serves to underline prejudices against me and my Pajamastani-American cousins.

Uhh... what * do * we call again? A blogad? A blogsade? Help me out here.

Posted by: Ghost of a flea at October 30, 2004 04:56 PM

erp I am right there with you in your fears of a Kerry presidency. I get the willies just thinking about a President Kerry and Teresa as first lady.

Posted by: Just Me at October 30, 2004 05:44 PM

"Shut up, Dan! Stop gripping my hand, too! It's all icky!" "Uh, Tom? I'm not holding your hand!" "No... it can't be... don't tell me my hand is being eaten by a... JUNGLEBLOGGER!!! AIGH! WHEN WILL THE HURTING STOP!!!"

Okay, only those who have seen Eekstravaganza! or more specifically, the Terrible Thunderlizards shorts in that show will have any idea of what I'm speaking of. Oh well. :)

Posted by: Patrick Chester at October 30, 2004 07:32 PM

Brokaw has the moral outrage of a patrician who thinks the plebes are forgeting to keep their "places" ;-)

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at October 30, 2004 10:23 PM

The MSM seems to have shut down till Monday. Meanwhile a diligent blogger posts a report that Swiss technical types, using computer voice recognition technology, have concluded that it is a 95% certainty the voice on the recent Bin Laden tape is not his. Can this be verified? Does it matter, To the media? to the C.I.A.? to us? Rex

Posted by: rex at October 31, 2004 02:40 AM

The grumbling from the main stream media (I no longer use caps for this) reminds me of something I experienced over 35 years ago. I began my working life in a cafeteria of the Continental Can Plant in St. Louis.

The production workers, used to talk about Quality Control exactly the same way. The more unkempt and incompetent the assembly line worker the more shrill the complaint.

Posted by: AllanYackey at October 31, 2004 07:33 AM

I think it is time to revive the old American tradition of catching these people out in public and tar and feather them. Maybe paint them yellow.

Posted by: David at October 31, 2004 08:21 AM

'I think there were people just lying in the Internet bushes, waiting to strike'

The pajamahideen

'I think there were people just lying '

CBS

Posted by: jacktanner at November 1, 2004 10:57 AM