Does anybody really care what Eleanor Clift says? I mean, before the Internet, when I sometimes watch the sunday morning pundit shows, she was always the most annoying commentator. An absolute Democratic party shill.

A.S. knows NOTHING about military matters, and demonstrates that often.

Indeed. Yet Ben Barnes was feted as some kind of hero last month when he decided to change his story and recall that he did help Bush get into the national guard.

We all know what the response of the horse and buggy media would have been if Kerry was a GOP candidate and so many of his fellow veterans came forward like the Swift Vets. I think that one move by Kerry where he stormed a VietCong position and then shot a kid dead would be something we'd still be talking about...if he was a Republican.

Among the most grevious travesties inflicted by the opinion makers during this election cycle is the smear they have perpetrated against the SwiftVets' and allied anti-Kerry veteran group activities. Attributing the passion reflected in these men's anti-Kerry campaign to base political motives is, whether intentional or naive, a gross disservice to the integrity of the debate.

PBS Frontline aired a so-called early life and background review of Bush and Kerry. My opinion is that the program’s script had more to do with DNC talking points than with journalism. Kerry's trip(s?) to Paris was not even mentioned – nor was Kerry’s lie about being in Cambodia. The Swift Boat Veterans were written off in the production as nothing more than creations of the “dirty-dealing Republicans,” with the group’s initiation supposedly dating back to the Nixon Whitehouse. A rave review of the Frontline program published in the Baltimore Sun that devotes even more space in attempting to label the SBVFT as Nixon’s Storm Troopers can be viewed at: http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.tv12oct12,1,1017772.story?coll=bal-artslife-today

HEY! Where am I on your blogroll???

1. Off-topic. There is such a thing as e-mail.

2. Where am I on your blogroll?

This is very bad form.

Only a fit of uncharacteristic modesty is keeping Andrew Sullivan from nominating himself for one of his "Sontag Awards."

Another good Swift Boat ad . . . but still, after the first couple I think the impact of these has seriously gone down hill. They just don't hit as hard anymore and come across as lots of preaching to the choir.

I hope and pray they've got the best on the shelf, waiting to roll out in the next few weeks.

Maybe a more detailed expose of Kerry meeting with the enemy??? Maybe they've got John McCain lined up?? Paul Galanti IS his best friend and the former Chair of his presidential campaign - something that continues to be ignored by everyone in the media.

For a few weeks I've been waiting for the hardest hitting ad to roll out - these, while good, just aren't it.

These Swift Vets have been ignored for a long time. It is time that the American voters listen to what they have to say. It's only fair!

With regard to Andrew Sullivan, he appears to be off his meds. He began this election cycle (seenms like I still had hair then) as a fairy rational reviewer of issues and events. He consistently supported the President's policies in Iraq and then along came the Massachusetts Supreme Court, etal.

Andrew has simply become a one issue guy who strains every position on every issue thru his desire to see homosexuality fully "normalized" in our society by "gay marriage". He manages to weave that POV into every disucssion of every issue in the manner of Kerry recalling his four months in Vietnam.

Thank God, I have been emailing them for weeks, telling them they MUST refute these ridiculous liberal media allegations that 255 Vietnam veterans (including many Democrats and 2 Medal of Honor winners) are just Republican shills. Unfortunately, the MSM has been only too happy to accept this absurd notion as conventional wisdom.

AS sent me a nasty reply when I suggested in an email yesterday that it may be the medication he's taking that caused him to do a 180 from a rational person to an irrational blatherer.

In support of my contention that he is now irrational is that he's supporting Kerry because of Bush's big spending !!!!! He also has issues against Bush because he didn't speak up in support of gay marriage (Kerry stated he is against gay marriage) -- go figure. If the sun turns cold and Kerry ends up sitting in the Oval Office, Bush's version of big spending will look pretty paltry in comparison to his and a Dem win will signal a return to a foreign policy of appeasement hastening the day when the earth is in the death grip of Islam and people like Andrew will be summarily executed.

I rest my case on Andrew's deminished reasoning ability.

Why is all of this relevant to this string. INDC has replaced AS at the head of my blog list.

Until recently I hadn’t been to “Slick” Sullivan’s site in six months, but I want to see how he’ll slither back to the center-right after the election to keep his click-count and advertising revenue up. His shift to Kerry was obvious long ago, but the groundwork for his upcoming ploy hasn’t shown up yet. That’s probably because Kerry still might win and then Sullivan won’t make the move… the Democrats know how to reward and punish, so Sullivan hasn’t started hedging and edging yet.

If Kerry loses, we may see Andy start swinging starboard the same night. To help him hold his base he might use something like Kerry’s comments on Cheney’s daughter to help express his newfound “disgust” at Kerry’s opportunism. A new, major terror attack would let him soapbox about how Bush is best suited to protecting us.

Once, I was interested in his opinions. Now he’s just entertainment, a mediaboy with pretensions. I’m not even insulted any more that, like all elitists, he thinks we’re stupid.

I agree that it's just adding insult to injury (to insult) for these people to smear the Swiftvets for Truth. I don't personally see the point of whacking Kerry for the comments about Mary Cheney when there's so much of more moment to whack the guy about. It's a diversion, and not too many people really give a rodent's tookus, I wouldn't think. As far as Andrew Sullivan goes, he is not the first among us who will have let selfish desires compromise his principles. For those of us who have never had to walk a mile in that (probably stylish but somewhat uncomfortable) particular pair of shoes that Sullivan wears, I'm not sure that we can fully appreciate what he's going through. "Adonai," and all that. So, I say we just lay off poor Andrew. His delusory condition is nothing that a year or two of Kerry as president wouldn't cure.

I think some of their ads have been powerful, and while I think some of them may be politically motivated, I don't think that is the case for the majority of them. I think they are truly angery at Kerry, and feel betrayed by him.

I think the media has done these men a disservice. They feted MM and his claims, but have trashed these men, and called them all liars.

I do think the Swiftboat guys have probably had about all the impact they are going to make in this election-I don't see this issue as swinging those last few voters either direction at this point, but they have every right to make their ads, and get their voices heard.

I don't think Sullivan will stay committed to a cause if that cause does not "excite" his imagination. And nothing is so boring as the bloody hard work of fighting for freedom.

when I suggested in an email yesterday that it may be the medication he's taking that caused him to do a 180 from a rational person to an irrational blatherer.

That was a very cheap shot.

Good move in taking Sullivan off your blogroll. I, for one, am weary of hearing about Sullivan's views on the world, whether directly from him or indirectly by others criticizing him. He just doesn't matter very much and should be treated accordingly. I hope you have started a trend.

I'm glad you took Sullivan off the blog roll.

Sullivan's migration from hawk to dove has been disgraceful, imo. The fact that this conversion happened simultaneously with the FMA is why it's disgraceful. Sullivan went from a one extremely imporant issue Bush supporter to a one issue, an issue that effects Andrew and a small segment of the population, Kerry supporter (this is particularly crass as Kerry isn't even supporting gay marriage).

It's all about Andrew, folks. Even if he takes off the Chicken Little hat on the Iraq war I won't ever be back to his site. Security is too important an issue to be sacrificed for gay rights, no matter how right Andrew is on the matter (and I agree that he's right).

Erp, I want to second Bill on this. It's really low class to write Sullivan an email like that and you compound the failing by bragging publicly about it.

The last couple ad buys are HUGE. I think they will decide the election.

I will be giving the Swiftee/POWs another $500 when I get home, and would encourage others to do the same.

I'm glad you've taken Sullivan off your blogroll. He's a talented writer who's lost perspective and no longer is worth reading.

This post articulated EXACTLY what I was thinking. I cannot believe these people can look at themselves in the mirror when they think about it. The thing is, they DON'T think about it.

Thank you Bill for a nicely worded article.
I was a little shocked at Mrs.Edwards riposte into Mrs.Cheney. But then again it wasn't her child that was used as a pawn in a cheap shot.
The thing none of these people are taking into consideration is, no matter who wins the election it will not change the reality of the danger we face. What it will do is either increase our vulnerability or find us more secure in the future.
We may have to pay an awful price because the people decide to put a head in the sand man in the White House.
Wise advise is stay alert and on guard as an individual, because when it comes down on our heads, it will be every man for themselves.

Oh, and then belately will the citizens who vote for Kerry realize belately Kerrys plain, is "I have a plan".

From ABC:
Chad Clanton, a Kerry spokesman, called the ads "more trash politics from President Bush's allies. Not only have their charges been proven false, but they're not talking about things that affect voters' daily lives like health care, jobs and the mess in Iraq."

How is it possible the Kerry campaign is allowed to say things like this??? "their charge have been proven false?" More have been proven TRUE than proven false!

These statements go totally unchallenged! Could the media BE any more in the tank???

Elenor Clift? I seem to remember from my distant past reading a couple of Newsweak articles with her name on them. And wasn't she on that Scream-at-Everyone-Till-Everybody's-Unintelligible show?

Andrew Sullivan? He used to get a couple of clicks a week from me, but ever since everything in the world became somehow connected to his homosexuality, I haven't been back.

And Jon Stewart is quite talented and I miss his show. Yet when he climbed fully into the "Anyone But Bush" bandwagon, I find humor elswhere too.

I don't miss these three at all.

Bill, you have the patience of a saint. I dropped Sullivan from my must-read list back in January, when he moved from being someone with whom I mostly disagreed to someone whose intellectual honesty I could not trust.

he moved from being someone with whom I mostly disagreed to someone whose intellectual honesty I could not trust

It's a little sad how the left's shrill hysteria combines with their moral relativism to inexorably grind away all intellectual integrity.

I took Sullivan off my bookmark list a couple of months back when I finally got fed up with his monomania - there is no other word that fits - on the subject of gay marriage. I don't think he's "off his meds" or anything like that, but he's become obsessed with this single issue to the very great, and unfortunate, detriment of what used to be exceptionally good commentary. I do still sometimes look at his site, however, and his comments on the latest debate are just jaw-dropping in their tweeness (Sullivan would, I think, recognize the word).

I saw the PBS show mentioned above also and was struck at what a puff piece it was.

They spent more time focusing on insurgents in Iraq and Kerry's time with the communists in Vietnam than they did on our troops in Iraq or 9/11.

They mentioned 9/11 a couple of times but not one image of the attack was shown. Of course, if you want to see the museum in Hanoi in which John Kerry has an honored place or video of people attacking our troops and innocent Iraqis you would have been very happy.

Just like NPR, government supported media does nothing to support the government.

The more I see and hear of the craven machinations of the Left, the more convinced I become that John Kerry, and consequently the Left, MUST be defeated this November...for all our sakes. And also for the sake of showing the baldly partisan media that, for all their shilling for one candidate, it's not going to be enough to thwart the will of the people.

I couldn't believe the Nightline story tonight and the way Koppel treated John Oneill.

Just watched Ted Koppel's hit piece on SBVTs. Are we to believe the testimony of Viet Cong personnel over that of decorated American veterans who actually participated with JFK in these operations? TK has shown himself to be part of the ABC attempt to protect and promote JFK. What a bunch of BS!!!!!

Koppel comes from the Viet Nam generation. He has probably internalized all the appropriate memes from that era, at least for someone in his position with a liberal broadcast network. In that mindset, American soldiers are beneath contempt; the phrase common at the time, and oft-repeated, is "baby killers." It was spoken with conviction and an air of innate moral superiority. Recall Clinton's letter to his draft board at that time: "I loathe the military."

So, it's natural that Koppel would resort to Communist "witnesses." In Koppel's world, the NVA holds moral authority, and American soldiers don't. This is beyond debate for people like Koppel.

Koppel's piece may therefore be extremely confusing to those who don't remember those days, and who might wonder why Americans would be interested in the testimony of Communists. To Koppel and his ilk, this is the only relevant testimony, and therefore deserves presentation on national TV. I'm sure Koppel really believes it is worthwhile.

Like Kerry, Koppel is in a time warp, circa 1970. They never grew up.

When Bush stood against gay marriage, Andrew dropped his vigilant fight for world freedom and went over to the other candidate who, ironically, is against gay marriage.
AS has been off my reading list for a while.

Great post Bill. The fact that you are hardly a Republican shill, yet you agree completely with my take on the tremendous disrespect shown to these vets, is important. I've never understood why the logic of "let them have their say" is so hard to pound into the skulls of the Bush-haters, whose rapid partisanship is downright embarrassing.

And good move to remove Sullivan. He is the John Kerry of the blogging world; sounds good, no substance. I've never understood the appeal, whether back in the days before he turned against Bush or after. He is a non-issue.

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