Is there any doubt we need to fire the MSM and replace them?

They are without a doubt subverting to a certain degree our democratic principles.

Why does the old media seem so much like Old Europe and the U.N.? I don't mean this to sound glib, either, I mean it literally. There is a rotten core there with a only a thin surface of respectability, and I think we can expect continued desperation moves of this kind from all three. I give them each about 3-5 years of final gasps, before they're pronounced dead or completely irrelevant. Just another reason to tip your hat to Dan Rather, I guess.

The word that keeps coming to mind when I think of the modern press is "corruption". I don't mean it necessarily in the "on the take" sense, but in the "rotten and sick" sense. Lapsed Randian is right -- the rot is covered by only a thin veneer, and we're seeing the veneer pulled back.

They have the gall to compare bloggers to brownshirts and Streicher?

This is just so typical of ABC: telling its people to hold Bush's feet to the fire but lay off Kerry.

The moron even had the nerve to commit it to paper.

Orion: It's not nerve that caused the bozo to write it down, it's the combination of self-righeousness and hubris peculiar to the Old Media.

Very very bad form.

When I heard this on Fox I was truly and completely disgusted. Worse than rathergate. I'm generally very even tempered. It made me genuinely ill.

I'm not going to pick a winner, just an observation that both Kerry and Bush seemed to enjoy this format more... the back and forth more spirited and direct... good debate by both.

Whoops -- wrong thread.

I don't think we should let ABC get away with this. But I don't know what to do? Write the affiliates? Petition? Call for a congressional investigation?

I really believe that it is a subversion of democracy and we just can't let this stand.

Guys, this is not the half of it. Just imagine how many dozens, maybe hundreds of internal memos like this are out there that have never seen the light of day. Remember when Fox News said "We'll release our memos if they release theirs?" There's a reason Fox had no takers.

Look, the media simply live a in an insulated liberal bubble. If you live in Jamestown long enough, eventually poisoned Kool-Aid starts to sound reasonable.

If you live in Jamestown long enough, eventually poisoned Kool-Aid starts to sound reasonable.

They had Kool-Aid in 1607?!!!

I have long thought the MSM has been giving Kerry a pass. This doesn't surprise me, and I would venture to guess there are similar memos at other organizations.

Isn't this what they accuse Fox News of doing? Sending memos to instruct their reporters how to cover things?

Is it necessarily a bad thing? I'd say no, so long as they're honest about what they're doing.

Jonestown?

In describing the state of the mainstream media, I do believe the term you are searching for is Decadent.

I don't believe this is authentic. It comes across as something you'd see in a Columbo episode.

All the facts neatly line up in order, forming a perfect triangle around something someone wants you to think.

What ABC exposed to the whole world is called elitism. They know what's best for us and hence who's best for us. And never forget, the ends justify the means (well "their ends" anyway).

I hope Drudge trusts his source. The memo on his sight has been photocopied several times. In this day & age, that is rarely done. He may have been setup or he needs to post a better image.

ABC News? What's that? I seem to remeber an old tv show called ABC News, is that still around?

My mistake, Jonestown of course.

The point is, the media is it's own little cult of liberalism. Some of the bias is unintentional, but some people (Mary Mapes, for instance) clearly come into journalism specifically to push a point of view because they want to "change the world."

For the most part, it's not so much bias as a natural result of the innate differences between libs and cons. When conservatives want to make a difference in the world, they're more likely to join the Marine Corps than the press corps.

It is the news media's job to do more than just report the campaign's press releases as fact. They should be investigating the truth. The memo reads:

"The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done."

I agree with that. Kerry does not purposely distort Bush's statements the way Bush does to Kerry's - that is news. The average person does not have the time to look at all of the things each candidate says and to analyze them for their accuracy.

Media Matters looks at the broader issue here:
Networks persisted with facade of "balance"

>>>Kerry does not purposely distort Bush's statements

Really? Kerry claims Bush fired Shinseki for suggesting we needed more troops (Shinseki's retirement had been set months before he made the statement). That seems like a distortion. What about Kerry's claim that Bush didn't try get allies on board? Poor Colin Powell wasted half a year trying to get the French to turn on a guy who was giving them billions in bribe money. How often did Kerry claim Bush was "questioning my patriotism?"

Distortions are often in the eye of the beholder. If you agree with Kerry, you don't see his distortions as a big deal.

>>>Is there any doubt we need to fire the MSM and replace them?

This article proves no. They are torching themselves and by us being here instead of in front of another tube proves the the MSM use has already been replaced.

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