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September 17, 2004
The Boston Globe

Posted by Bill

I'm really too tired to take a swipe at the Globe's new editorial, so I'll just let Hugh Hewitt do the heavy lifting:

"UNLESS THE documents used by "60 Minutes" in a broadcast on President Bush's National Guard service were fabricated by a campaign operative, they are part of a story relating to the news judgment at CBS and have little to do with presidential politics."

"[N]ews judgment at CBS?" Didn't the Globe run with these docs as well? Has there been a retraction I missed? And does the Globe allow its editors to live in a different reality, because the CBS/Globe forgeries were used to attack the campaign of George W. Bush.

Sigh.

UPDATE: Ernest Miller presents a comprehensive timeline that tracks CBS's response to the allegations. I suspect that this will be cited in J-School and Public Relations curriculums at some point in the future.

Posted by Bill at September 17, 2004 12:30 PM | TrackBack (1)

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Additional aggravation: The editorial repeats the lie that "abundant documentation makes it clear that Kerry volunteered for hazardous duty in Vietnam". Kerry himself stated that he volunteered for Swift Boat duty specifically to avoid combat, as the Swift Boat teams were, at that time, patrolling only coastal waters. Of course, Kerry said that before he flopped from remorseful war criminal to hard charging war hero.

(double sigh, and a spit)

Posted by: mikem at September 17, 2004 12:47 PM

I think it is the considered opinion of many, that CBS's"news judgement" will finally be their ruination.

Posted by: R.W. Thug at September 17, 2004 12:52 PM

I was reading through an old interview ratherbiased did with bernard goldberg he mentions something about the press not lying but being delusional.

If there is one thing the last 8 days has shown me is a large portion of the press is in someway delusional. I used to think they were dumb, but now I think they delusional.

In the NY Post there is an article about the original 60 min trying to distance it self. I always thought 60 min had a bias for what they went after but that they generally supported their stuff fairly well. I don't know that I can believe that anymore. I am now convinced these big media outfits are at least half full of people with very well fitting asshats living in a fantasy world.

Posted by: ctob at September 17, 2004 12:55 PM

This isn't about "news judgement" this is about journalistic ethics:

Incompetent or Unethical? The Story of CBS News' Response to Criticism Over the Killian Memos
http://www.corante.com/importance/archives/006222.php

Posted by: Ernest Miller at September 17, 2004 01:06 PM

The jury is no longer out! Any intellectually honest person with a fifth grade education or higher, who is familiar with the factual data concerning the Rather documents, regardless of political persuasion, understands that the probability that these documents are authentic is an alternative definition of ZERO. However, on Sept 17, David Bauder, (AP), quotes CBS News President Andrew Heyward: “I think the forensics debate may not be resolved.” Huh? Why would Bauder dignify this quote by inclusion unless he believed that there was a scintilla of credibility to be found in it. What are these people smoking?

Posted by: bob hankey at September 17, 2004 02:32 PM

One of the funniest issues with the Boston Globe so far has been their FRONT PAGE HEADLINE over the story has been retracted.

Instead of
Authenticity backed on Bush documents
They admit they should have said
Authenticity NOT backed on Bush documents

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/15/for_the_record/

Boston Globe's headline writer was thinking that none of the experts were 100.000% certain they were forged, therefore they were authentic.

Posted by: globestar at September 17, 2004 02:49 PM

Bob: CBS will never hire a top forensic expert to resolve it (well, actually they hired two, Emily Will and Linda James, both of whom said it looked fake before being shown the door). But it looks like they're on to a new trick: they're giving promotions to their old, discredited pseudo-experts. The guy who said you can't type an "L" on a keyboard is now identified as IBM Techician Richard Katz. I guess they were confusing him with former (1985) IBM typewriter repairman Bill Glennon but who knows. And notice that Glennon is listed as their "Technology Consultant" -- very misleading considering that all he talks about is replacing typewriter keys and apparently has no experience in the computers that most people think of when they see the word "technology."

Posted by: The Raving Atheist at September 17, 2004 03:03 PM

Just heard an ABC Radio sounbite from the Col. Staubt that called this meno mentioning him a total fabrication and he never suggested any sugar coating of Bushes record. Another nail in Dan's coffin?

Posted by: Tom H at September 17, 2004 03:09 PM

Globestar: That retraction was brought about by INDC itself.

Posted by: The Raving Atheist at September 17, 2004 03:10 PM


If I were unemployed, and had no shame, I suppose I could start bloggging everywhere that I could prove the memos came from 1972, and then CBS would hire me.

I could also murder people for profit, too, I guess, if I'm gonna go that far.

Posted by: fonter at September 17, 2004 05:18 PM