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June 08, 2004
Regarding Michael Berg

Posted by Bill

... I was just pinged by this blog entry:

In my world, when your child has just been brutally murdered you should be allowed to say anything you want to say. I do not think that Berg in any way disgraces his son’s memory by publicly expressing his opinion. Those who want to mock and belittle Michael Berg, like those who made light of the death of Rachel Corrie, only reveal their own shallowness and smallminded partisanship.

My response?

I didn't mock and belittle Michael Berg, I presented an argument against him and a context for his words; but I'm tempted to mock and belittle YOU for this: The idea that someone can say "anything" they "want to say" when their son is murdered. Berg has joined the political fray, is speaking at public rallies on a public issue, and his arguments should be just as subject to criticism and dissection as anyone else's.

I argued against bothering the man after CNN shoved cameras in his face and he said some things that I vehemently disagree with, but now he is making wildly unrealistic arguments and using the death of his son in an attempt to persuade mainstream America. The way that he pins the blame for his son's death on the Bush Administration is almost nonsensical, as are his "solutions" to the war in Iraq.

I bear no ill will towards the man (as some commenters do) for doing what he believes is right, but I do not respect his shallow, illogical arguments. I also think that when a man garners time on national newscasts and writes columns for international publications that espouse anti-war views, that viewers and readers should be able to analyze these statements in the appropriate context (his firmly established political ideology).

He doesn't make much sense. And neither do you.

Note: If any of you decide to comment to this guy, please be somewhat civil when you frame your argument; swearing and spewing hatred only strengthens his position ... or at the very least invalidates yours.

Posted by Bill at June 8, 2004 12:37 PM | TrackBack (2)

Comments

Don't let it bother you Bill, I think it was common decency for most people who disagreed with Mr. Bergs political views to give him a free pass when he started out on his tirade.

But it is now becoming obvious that he is trying to capitalize on his new found fame in a depressing manner, by using his sons death as a talking point.

If he had any reasonable alternative to what he's arguing against, I would listen, but he seems to get less coherent the more he talks.

It's sad to watch this whole thing...

Posted by: Tman at June 8, 2004 12:53 PM

i posted a simment over there. i have to agree with mr berg, that a world of nonviolence would be great. and all that is required is for everyone to agree to nonviolence. as a realist though, and from persoanl experience, i know there are people in the world who are not rational, and are unwilling to put away their weapons. weapons, and violence are a part of humanity. however sad that is. and like the old saying, 'innocence invites evil upon itself'. violence does the same thing. marx said so in das kapital....

Posted by: mlah at June 8, 2004 01:13 PM

My comments are not aimed so much at you Bill as at some of those who have posted comments on and trackbacks to your entry.

Nick Berg was a supporter of the war against terror so what sense does it make for people on the right to attack the father whom he loved?

That's exactly the kind of non-compassionate attitude that alienates people from conservatism.

We are one country and we all have to live together regardless of political views. A little sensitivity goes a long way.

I supported the war but there were plenty of intelligent and decent people who didn't. Let's not build some kind of New Berlin Wall between the right and the left.

Posted by: Graham Lester at June 8, 2004 01:36 PM

Whomp!

You're on a roll, Bill. Keep up the good work. We desperately need your contribution to the information mix.

Posted by: willow at June 8, 2004 01:54 PM

Graham - I understand how the stridence of some of the commenters could give you that impression, but some regard M Berg's behavior as a cynical manipulation of his son's death, and find it repulsive in the same way that you find their comments repulsive ... also, you should specify that you are not referring to comments and not my post.

I feel little strong emotion about the guy, I just feel that his celebrity access to media outlets should be countered with logic and comprehensive coverage.

Posted by: Bill from INDC at June 8, 2004 02:12 PM

The left always thinks it should be allowed to say what it wants without being challenged. If you do challege them on the basis of their arguement, you are shouted down as a 'racist', 'narrow minded', 'insensitive' etc. How sad.

In my world when you make public statements, you open yourself to public criticism and inquisition. No matter if your son was murdered or not.

Posted by: Iraqi Intelligence at June 8, 2004 02:27 PM

Michael Berg sickens and saddens me; Graham Lester thinks I shouldn't be able to express that view. So fuck Graham Lester. He's not the boss of me. And I don't need him as my "compassion" gauge.

Posted by: Jeff G at June 8, 2004 04:59 PM

Good on Ya Jeff G.

Any "compassion" I may have felt for a bereaved father evaporated the moment that so-called father chose to exploit the death of his son in order to espouse a Stalinist political view 180° away from his son's late views. Not only that...he has aligned himself with volk [A.N.S.W.E.R.] who proclaim support for the cause of those who sawed his son's head off.

Despicable!

...And so to are the would be thought-police who try to shield Michael Berg's supposed father from the consequences of his public statements.

Posted by: Rtfm at June 9, 2004 08:37 PM

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves. A: this man lost his son in the most horrific display of terror imaginable, and the media has been trained on him ever since. B: Why do you even care what his political ideologies are, were or will be? When you have a family member who is brutally beheaded, then you can rant and rail with some legitimacy.

Posted by: Amanda at June 27, 2004 10:05 PM

When you have a child who is murdered so ruthless on the internet you have no right to make false statements as Mr. Berg did today 6/29 on Fox at his latest protest rally. He claims 9-11 Com. found no evidence of Iraq-AlQuada connection. Just like lying Michael Moore he is spinning what they said, just go back and listen to what the C0-Chair said.
Please Mr. Berg, don't use Nick's death to spread lies about Bush and grieve like a normal father would.

Posted by: Nancy at June 29, 2004 03:53 PM

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