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Please Answer This Question
Posted by Bill If you had the chance to ask Michael Berg one question, what would it be? Jokes are of course permissable (always), but I'm really looking for serious questions; something that you wish that some anchor from CNN would spring on him in the middle of one of his tirades that award his son's murderers some illusory humanity. I'm also not really looking for righteously shouted pontifications; something concise and calm would do, a solid interrogatory masking pointed logic would be ideal. In short, something that he might actually attempt to answer. Winner gets a special prize. This is not a rhetorical exercise - I might get the opportunity to ask him a questions or two. I stress might. Thanks. Posted by Bill at May 25, 2004 12:14 PM | TrackBack (1) Comments"If you were going to be locked in a room with one person and that person were going to be armed, would you rather it be George Bush, or one of the men who killed your son?" Posted by: Farmer Joe at May 25, 2004 12:25 PM Why bother? No question or laundry list of logic will change the man's mind. He hates Bush. He hates Republicans. The hate he feels is the same hate those who killed his son feel. It doesn't surprise me that he identifies with them. If a question was given to me, I guess it would be somewhere along the lines of "Do you realize that by stating that Bush is more evil than those who killed your son that most people label you a Grade-A assclown? That when you make such asinine statements, nobody will listen to you and that you are doing more harm to your cause than good? Do you also realize how you belittle your son's tragic death with cheap political potshots?" Then I'd kick him in the groin , just in case he wasn't paying enough attention. But seriously, regardless of the question, the man already has his mind made up and will move goalposts accordingly. Posted by: Marble at May 25, 2004 12:36 PM Certainly, but the appropriate question might be helpful in pointing this out. Posted by: Bill from INDC Journal at May 25, 2004 12:52 PM The one I'd most like to ask (that isn't particularly polite) is: "How long do you intend on using the death of your son to advance your political agenda?" The one I was actually ask him would be, "If you have evidence that the President intentionally defrauded the UNited States and entered into a conspiracy with other nations around the world and the UN in order to invade Iraq, when will you attempt to bring charges against him?" Posted by: Jimmie at May 25, 2004 01:01 PM "It's obvious from your remarks that you think the American response to 9/11 was the wrong thing to do. What would you have done instead, if it'd been up to you?" Posted by: Jeff Harrell at May 25, 2004 01:06 PM "If you had Zarqawi at your mercy right now, what would you do?" It's a little along the lines of the 1988 Kitty Dukakis rape question, but I would like to see his answer. Posted by: pennywit at May 25, 2004 01:27 PM That one's not bad - not bad at ALL! Posted by: Bill from INDC Journal at May 25, 2004 01:30 PM Jeff, I can answer that one. He wanted us to bend over and take a few more. From his comments in al-Guardian, we should have given up. We should have spent the money we used in attacking Al Queso to fund a study to find out why they hate us so much and then use that knowledge to repair all the world's problems. Plus, he would have had GWB tried for war crimes (preemptively) and made conservatism illegal. Posted by: Marble at May 25, 2004 01:33 PM "How did your son feel about Zen Buddhism?" "BECAUSE I CAN'T ASK HIM, YOU GOD-DAMNED APOLOGIST!" Posted by: Moe Lane at May 25, 2004 01:41 PM Err... both the quoted text would have been coming from me, with his response in the middle. Posted by: Moe Lane at May 25, 2004 01:42 PM Were your views of America and the "War On Terrorism" any different before your son was murdered? Posted by: Gordon at May 25, 2004 01:50 PM "Why did you let your son go to Iraq?" Posted by: John Tant at May 25, 2004 01:53 PM "Did your son share your same views and if so, why did he go to Iraq?" Posted by: Serenity at May 25, 2004 02:15 PM "You think that it is immoral for the United States military to be in Iraq. Do you also think that your son was immoral for having gone to Iraq as well?" Posted by: Aaron at May 25, 2004 03:03 PM From the man you're busy trashing: "So what were we to do when we in America were attacked on September 11, that infamous day? I say we should have done then what we never did before: stop speaking to the people we labeled our enemies and start listening to them. Stop giving preconditions to our peaceful coexistence on this small planet, and start honoring and respecting every human's need to live free and autonomously, to truly respect the sovereignty of every state. To stop making up rules by which others must live and then separate rules for ourselves." Posted by: Damon at May 25, 2004 03:06 PM mr. berg, after raising your son in the liberal traidition of non-violence only to watch him sit passively by as 5 asshat terrorists cut off his head, how can you begin to espouse this course of behavior to other mothers and fathers in the US? Posted by: mlah at May 25, 2004 03:09 PM Damon, I'm not busy at all, it's actually only a bit of my time. And what kind of horseshit answer is that? Hey, you just murdered 3,000 innocents! Boy, that got our attention, now how can we help you? Don't be an ass. He dishonors the memory of his son by imparting a sense of nobility to the psychotic murderers that hacked the kid's head off. He regarded them as human beings of greater virtue than Bush - I don't care if you dislike Bush, or even hate him, the comparison is obscene. Posted by: Bill from INDC Journal at May 25, 2004 03:12 PM Damon, and while we're all busy holding hands and singing Kumbaya, the people who want to kill us would keep on doing it, with no change to their evil ways or lobbying methods. And as pointed out by the excellent Jeff Harrell: "A successful act of terrorism isn't any one in which people die. It's one in which the status quo changes as a result of those deaths. If we make sweeping changes to our foreign policy that benefit those who carried out that attack against us, then the attack has been successful. If Michael Berg had been in charge on the morning of 9/11, it would have been the most spectacularly successful act of terrorism ever perpetrated in the history of the world." So sorry buddy. The point of 9-11 wasn't to kill a bunch of Americans, and it wasn't a bunch of misunderstood Joes acting out. The point was to bring about a change in either American policy or society, your pick. And Berg's response would play right into their hands. And even though I'm sorry for Berg's loss, I'm not prepared to set into motion his prescription that would end up with my son growing up with a crescent-mooned jackboot in his face...assuming he's allowed to grow up at all. Posted by: John Tant at May 25, 2004 04:05 PM When Zarqawi is captured, would you prefer he be sentenced to easy time and a short sentence due to your conclusion of the Presidents guilt for your sons death? Posted by: Eugene at May 25, 2004 04:17 PM While only native-born U.S. citizens are eligible for the Presidency, I would like to pose a hypothetical: If Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi were to replace John F. Kerry on the Democratic Presidential ticket for this November's election and if George W. Bush were the only other candidate on the ballot, for whom would you vote and why? Posted by: Tongue Boy at May 25, 2004 04:29 PM Mr. Berg, if your son is watching you from heaven, what do you think he wants you to say? If the situation was reversed, what would have been his position? Posted by: Jane at May 25, 2004 04:41 PM Mr. Berg, you recently said: "So what were we to do when we in America were attacked on September 11, that infamous day? I say we should have done then what we never did before: stop speaking to the people we labeled our enemies and start listening to them. Stop giving preconditions to our peaceful coexistence on this small planet, and start honoring and respecting every human's need to live free and autonomously, to truly respect the sovereignty of every state. To stop making up rules by which others must live and then separate rules for ourselves." In attempting to apply your logic to the kind of people that murdered 3,000 innocents on September, that filled several mass graves with several towns' worth of innocents in Iraq, that strap on explosive vests and enter Israel for the specific purpose of killing Jews (such as yourself), and who, in fact, cut off your son's head after reading a statement calling for a more zealous committment to jihad against the West (which in itself contradicts your belief in how peoples should behave towards one another), I find myself wondering: Are you familiar with the concept of irony? Posted by: ccwbass at May 25, 2004 04:41 PM 1.Sir, you've said we should talk to them and find what they want. Posted by: nathan at May 25, 2004 05:10 PM Bill - One of your readers, Jeff Harrell wrote: "It's obvious from your remarks that you think the American response to 9/11 was the wrong thing to do. What would you have done instead, if it'd been up to you?" I posted Mr. Berg's statement in reply. If that makes me an ass in your book then so be it. Posted by: Damon at May 25, 2004 05:45 PM I realized why you posted it, and that wasn't why I labeled you an ass; it was this: "From the man you're busy trashing:" If there isn't some connotation entrenched in your tone, I'm a monkey's uncle. Posted by: Bill from INDC at May 25, 2004 05:53 PM Would you rather see Saddam Hussein tried by Iraqis or at the Hague, and why? If your son had been armed, do you think he could have prevented the terrorists from abducting him? Do you think that the war in Iraq is largely based on racism, as the Marxist front group International ANSWER would have us believe? In your opinion, does the state of Israel have the right to defend its own existence? Posted by: Watcher at May 25, 2004 05:59 PM I know this is a little bit heartless, but after living in a moonbat household like that for so many years, I can see why Nick wanted to get out and do something in the world. We know he supported Bush. It's a perfect example of my entire generation. Our parents' generation rebelled against "the man" but now they are "the man." It's just gone in a cycle. Posted by: Eric at May 25, 2004 06:24 PM Bill- Posted by: Eric at May 25, 2004 06:34 PM Not necessarily, I may only get one or two questions. Posted by: Bill from INDC at May 25, 2004 06:59 PM I'll give you the monkey part, Bill. Posted by: Damon at May 25, 2004 07:09 PM Don't bullshit me Damon, your intent was as transparent as the wind blowing softly through your ears ... Posted by: Bill from INDC at May 25, 2004 07:19 PM How would you characterize the passion which inspired your son to travel to Iraq, and how do you honor the legacy of this passion? Posted by: Rtfm at May 25, 2004 09:16 PM Real One: Mr Berg, your article in the Guardian contains these words: "My son's work still goes on. Where there was one peacemaker before, I now see and have heard from thousands of peacemakers. Nick was a man who acted on his beliefs." What "work" are you referring to? Snide One: How does it feel knowing that your son's death may lead to the reelection of George W. Bush? Posted by: Brainster at May 25, 2004 09:18 PM Oooh, me likey. But don't expect it in any campaign commercials anytime soon. I think even Karl Rove has at least some respect for the dignity of human life when it comes to politics. Posted by: Eric at May 25, 2004 11:16 PM Bill, Damon was obviously unaware that I had already read Mr. Berg's answer to my own question, as you well know. (Thanks for the kind words, John.) My point was that he didn't actually say what he would have done in the President's place. "We should start listening to them" is too vague. Specifics! If an invasion of Afghanistan is the wrong thing, what's the right thing? Establish an embassy in Kabul and send an ambassador to shore up relations with the Taliban? Establish diplomatic relations with Osama bin Laden himself? Or just start sending military aid to the Palestinian Authority? If what the President did was wrong, what would have been right? It's all part of this kick I've been on lately. Whenever somebody says anything negative about the administration or the war or what have you, I ask for an alternative suggestion instead. If X is bad, what would be good? If X is wrong, what would be right? To date, nobody has given me an answer that doesn't involve some form of sitting in a circle and singing Kumbaya. Aren't there any smart, resourceful, ambitious radical leftists? Aren't there any radical leftists with, you know, ideas? Or are they all just complaining? (A chilling thought comes: maybe all the smart, resourceful, ambitious radical leftists are out there doing something instead of posting on their web sites. Note to self: join a campaign soonest.) Posted by: Jeff Harrell at May 25, 2004 11:50 PM Serious: Have you read OBL's declaration of war, both in 1996, and 1998? Your reactions Mr. Berg....
Posted by: marc at May 26, 2004 01:44 AM "Does the rest of your family share your feelings?" Posted by: BH at May 26, 2004 02:11 AM Jeff,
Per your chilling thought ;-), I seriously fear action from the radical left. Laughable as their misguided idealism is, whenever they had a chance to try out their ideas, millions have died. (See Cultural Revolution, Khmer Rouge, Soviet Union, etc.) Thank God we have rule of law. I seriously believe that without it, "Peace rallys" would soon devolve to Krystalnacht. Posted by: Gordon at May 26, 2004 08:10 AM Marc, Posted by: Eric at May 26, 2004 09:03 AM |
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