Hey, he released his records. That settles it for me, since I don't know enough to parse those records for what they really mean. However, Kerry made his record part of his campaign platform, and then didn't want to release those records, which made the whole thing worse. If he had released on Day 1 and said "this is the paperwork for my military career," nobody would have given it a second glance; instead, he was rude and snobby about it. It's more an indication of bad campaign management than of anything he did 30 years ago.

The VVAW stuff is, I agree, a far more legitimate issue. After all, most of the military records are other people's words about Kerry. The VVAW stuff is direct from the Senator's mouth.

I don't have a problem with people demanding that he release his records either ... I do have a problem with people that have never been shot at jumping on the bandwagon and calling him a coward, or a wimp. That angle will be highly counterproductive with much of America, in addition to being hypocritical ...

Even if all this hubbub about Kerry's Purple Hearts were true, at least we don't have to worry about him following in the footsteps of Admiral Boorda. Instead of saying why I believe this, I'll just leave it at that.

Exactly! I don't question his record of service. I DO question his VVAW record, though.

Does anyone know when Kerry was released from the Navy (not including Fleet Reserve time)? Reason is that if he took up the VVAW rhetoric while still on duty, that would be considered treason in my book (not that any of his latest rhetoric and voting record isn't treasonous).

Wonder if Fat Northern Bastard (Michael Moore) would ever do a faux-cumentary on the VVAW, Kerry, Fonda, Sutherland and FTA?

I think you make an excellent point here.

The fact is that John Kerry did receive those medals and that happens usually upon recommendation and review. He did not receive those medals -- any of them -- by virtue of his charismatic personality.

His rhetoric though is as fair a game as his voting record.

And what DID happen to all of that black hair?

Oh c'mon! alot of people were more critical than me.

I know, I just came up with you first on google. Congratulations!

Feel free to choose a post during your visit and Fisk at will.

Here we are in complete aggreement. The White House attempts to turn this into an issue is a serious misfire on their part.

Thw country still awaits info on the most disputed of the purple hearts, the first one.

i just want to point out that while it isn't a really big deal to *me* what john kerry did or did not do for his purple hearts (i'm not voting on vietnam) it probably is a huge deal to the folks he was over there with.

giving the benefit of the doubt to the accusers for the moment, how would you, a vietnam vet that fought, killed, and bled, and did it all without whining, saw some pansy rich boy getting b.s. medals and getting out of country for some half-assed made up injury. then, to add salt to that wound, there's the winter soldier trials, and, for some gasoline on it, 35 years later here's the same guy claiming he's a war hero in a presidental election. sorry for the harsh language, i'm just trying to put it in the perspective of where they would be looking at it from

i'm not saying either way that they're right or he's right, or that it's even a huge deal relative to the election, but i saw guys do stuff like this to get out of iraq, i don't hold it against them unless they come back and try to pull something like this. that would seriously jerk my chain

er...sorry for the long post

No apologies necessary Francis, and bad language is always acceptable here at INDC. You make a good point - but I did qualify my criticism with the fact that Vietnam War veterans that saw combat can complain to their heart's content. As a general Republican talking point, however, maligning Kerry's war record is suicide.

way late here, but agreed...i don't know if anything has come from the white house on this or any official republican outlet, but trying to make political hay from this would just make them look petty. if it makes major news sources, it's worth talking about out there maybe, but isn't suitable for a mention as a serious political point. or as a reason to vote for or against kerry

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